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Old Jan 9, 2014, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by italdesign
I just got this squared away with Radisson Martinique. They had standard rooms for purchase but not redemption. I called, had to be transferred a few times, but eventually got to the right person (Andrew is who I spoke with, in lieu of Denise [Dir of Reservation]). He referred to capacity control for redemption. I reminded him of CC's policy of "no blackout dates." Eventually he agreed. He needed to call CC on my behalf to make the booking. Took about 30 minutes total.

They actually had availability the weekend before and the one after (by that I mean redeemable online), so the overall availability seems OK (based on limited data).

Thanks to Mommy Points and the information here.
I had same problem but then I wrote many emails to relevant persons in the hotel and suddenly there were rooms available on the website. So I booked through CC website, got confirmation and I even made a request for upgrade. Now I hope they will honour the room I booked....even if at the first sight the period was not available and employee told me it was a black-out period.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 2:19 pm
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Reservation rep told me to book through third party hotel site?

The date I want book at Radisson Lucerne is not available yet the standard rooms are available for sale on Booking.com site.
I emailed the hotel and got a replied to book through Booking.com. Does this happen to anyone before? I would like to book though Club carlson using points is possible. Should I now contact Club Carlson?
Thanks
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 2:51 pm
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Booking.com may have block booked the dates, so Carlson may actually have no rooms available because they have already sold them to Booking.com.
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Old May 22, 2014, 10:22 pm
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does not seem to work by calling or emailing
I'm trying to book the New York Broadway Radisson via points, contacted them via email and they responded that they don't reserve via point and ask me to contact central reservations.

So I contacted club carlson and this is what I got back from them.

Dear Mowsquared,

We appreciate your recent message. The award nights rate for the
specified date is sold out. This rate as will any other rate can sell
out. For example if the hotel offers 100 rooms, they may offer 5 rooms
per night to be booked at the award rate. Once those five are booked the
rate is closed. This is not a black out date situation.

Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to assist you.

Regards,

Club Carlson
Online Customer Support Specialist
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Old May 23, 2014, 8:24 am
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I am planning a trip roughly Dec. 3-7 at Radisson Martinique in NYC.

Cash, no problem. Points are not usable.

Same old song-and-dance, mighty annoying.
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Old May 27, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
I am planning a trip roughly Dec. 3-7 at Radisson Martinique in NYC.

Cash, no problem. Points are not usable.

Same old song-and-dance, mighty annoying.
Keep trying - as a general rule I advise never take the first or even the second 'no' for an answer. Usually if you have even half a leg to stand on they'll give some ground to stop the annoyance.

Sadly this sort of crud is getting to be commonplace in many programs....
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Old Jun 4, 2014, 1:57 am
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So I mean the same phenomenon exists for airline redemptions, its not blackout dates its capacity control. So how am I suppose to know if they ran out of rooms at the CC points rate or if they just blacked out the dates?
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Old Jun 4, 2014, 8:23 am
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That's the trouble with Carlson. Some hotels, such as Aruba, create a Standard/ Guest Room category which is the only one bookable with (normal/ non-time & a half) points as a ruse to have capacity controls &or blackouts!
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Old Jun 4, 2014, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
I am planning a trip roughly Dec. 3-7 at Radisson Martinique in NYC.

Cash, no problem. Points are not usable.

Same old song-and-dance, mighty annoying.
I am having the same problem for a two night reservation at the Radisson Martinique in late August. Please let us know if you have any luck getting someone to open up aailability. Thanks!
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by PRHusky
I am having the same problem for a two night reservation at the Radisson Martinique in late August. Please let us know if you have any luck getting someone to open up aailability. Thanks!
Same problem here for late September. Plenty of rooms available.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by PRHusky
I am having the same problem for a two night reservation at the Radisson Martinique in late August. Please let us know if you have any luck getting someone to open up aailability. Thanks!
I just checked every night in December and not a single one has reward availability. Less than a month ago, I found availability most nights. Unfortunately I was still waiting for enough points to post before booking.

We are half of a year out with no availability during the whole month? Very frustrating...
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Old Jun 6, 2014, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by MadTownFlyer
I just checked every night in December and not a single one has reward availability. Less than a month ago, I found availability most nights. Unfortunately I was still waiting for enough points to post before booking.

We are half of a year out with no availability during the whole month? Very frustrating...
Same here, they must have removed availability. I found all nights open a few weeks ago and now nothing.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 11:24 am
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Just had to jump through the hoops, but I was able to secure 2 nights in NYC for 50k points.

They really make it seem like its a 'one time exception' and that they shouldn't be able to 'override award space that is 'blacked out'', even though there shouldn't be any space that is blacked out.

Didn't get any response via email for about 2 days, but calling while a manager was present seemed to do the trick. Would be nice to compile a list of hotels that do not accurately display award space, seems to be a fair amount.

1.nyc martinique
2.chicago blu
3.cleveland gateway
Those are 3 I've checked and can say there are frequently standard rooms, but no standard redemptions on those dates.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 11:48 am
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Add Aruba to Moops380's list per my Post #23 above. We would also add St. Martin per my Post #15, but it has left the Radisson Chain (to become a Riu.)
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 12:32 pm
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Interesting about Aruba, I was able to secure 2x2 online no issues for a long weekend in the fall.

How is that hotel? Originally was debating looking at the hyatt next door, I'm told the hyatt has a swim up bar... Any tips appreciated.
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