New Club Carlson Credit Card (now available)
Oct 26, 2012, 9:31 am
#17
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: MKE
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Club Carlson Gold,
Posts: 639
I am waiting for this card too. Since their recent promos I have really enjoyed CC hotels and added them to my list. I like you would love to stay in their European chains. Anyone with more knowledge know if the first public offer of a credit card is the best or should you wait for the better offer?
Oct 26, 2012, 11:29 am
#18
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FLL/MIA
Programs: PC Platinum, Hyatt GP Diamond, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 248
The US Bank is one of my least favorite ones but we should wait and see how it plays out.
My bigger concern is that "Stay One Get One Free" type of promos will die down once the card is launched.
Ever since Hyatt launched their CC their promos are dismal
Let's hope that Club Carlson does not fall into this trap.
RM
My bigger concern is that "Stay One Get One Free" type of promos will die down once the card is launched.
Ever since Hyatt launched their CC their promos are dismal
Let's hope that Club Carlson does not fall into this trap.
RM
Oct 26, 2012, 12:14 pm
#20
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
Programs: AA Plat 2MM, MR Gold, Avis Pref
Posts: 41,109
For me, the demise of the Hyatt program was directly correlated with the Hyatt Credit Card. I went from Diamond to nothing with that program as its completely sold its soul to the devil.
I do fear this program will be as useful as Goldpassport currently is once the CC hits.
as someone stated, this can't be good news
I do fear this program will be as useful as Goldpassport currently is once the CC hits.
as someone stated, this can't be good news
Nov 6, 2012, 10:14 am
#22
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 182
Anyone heard any rumbling as to when this might be happening? The last I heard was "Q4 2012", but that was a long time ago.
I'm preparing for my next churn and planning a trip to London. Having a fair few CC points stashed away, a credit card top-up would be great, especially given that I'll be losing my Elite status soon.
Thanks,
-Karl
I'm preparing for my next churn and planning a trip to London. Having a fair few CC points stashed away, a credit card top-up would be great, especially given that I'll be losing my Elite status soon.
Thanks,
-Karl
Nov 16, 2012, 12:12 pm
#23
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New York, NY
Programs: The Golden status boy
Posts: 854
The US Bank is one of my least favorite ones but we should wait and see how it plays out.
My bigger concern is that "Stay One Get One Free" type of promos will die down once the card is launched.
Ever since Hyatt launched their CC their promos are dismal
Let's hope that Club Carlson does not fall into this trap.
RM
My bigger concern is that "Stay One Get One Free" type of promos will die down once the card is launched.
Ever since Hyatt launched their CC their promos are dismal
Let's hope that Club Carlson does not fall into this trap.
RM
Honestly, if Club Carlson made their 50,000/44,000 point offers, 25,000 points for 2 nights and Buy 1 Get 1 offers exclusive to me as a card holder, I’d be less apt to churn the card in fear that I would miss out on an opportunity in between applications. It would be well worth the annual fee in savings alone.
But, as we’ve heard nothing of any development with this, it’s all hearsay.
Nov 17, 2012, 7:37 pm
#24
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: MUC (home), DUS (office), XXX (customer)
Programs: LH, AB, SPG, CC, Sixt, EC
Posts: 6,334
If they would limit promotions to card holders, they would have to make the credit card available outside the US as well or give up non-US customers. Unlikely.
People, don't forget that there is a world outside the US
People, don't forget that there is a world outside the US
Nov 24, 2012, 3:54 am
#25
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: mountains of western NC
Programs: Life, Love and Laughter
Posts: 8,537
Someone on Milepoint reported this:
"I spoke with a telephone agent a few weeks ago who said they were to release the card by the end of the year. Its getting here quick, we'll see."
"I spoke with a telephone agent a few weeks ago who said they were to release the card by the end of the year. Its getting here quick, we'll see."
Nov 24, 2012, 6:25 am
#26
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
Posts: 9,950
Word-of-mouth marketing will increase as the roll-out draws nigh.
Friends, this will be a one-off thrill - the joining bonus - and then we'll be left with a credit card loyalty program whose need to maximize its own profits squeezes out the stay and hotel loyalty incentives going forward. For us loyal stayers, sort of like waking up the morning after, and...
The dynamic might be different in a huge program - Hilton? - where the management doesn't feel the need to downgrade the stay loyalty program as a result, but Carlson and Club Carlson are of the order of magnitude of Hyatt and Gold Passport, and it must be a zero-sum game.
It will be a giddy win for Carlson, as it rakes in the revenue from the credit card for all kinds of spend. But it's not "win-win". The sages here told us so at the advent of the "Gold Passport" credit card, and they've been proved right.
Friends, this will be a one-off thrill - the joining bonus - and then we'll be left with a credit card loyalty program whose need to maximize its own profits squeezes out the stay and hotel loyalty incentives going forward. For us loyal stayers, sort of like waking up the morning after, and...
The dynamic might be different in a huge program - Hilton? - where the management doesn't feel the need to downgrade the stay loyalty program as a result, but Carlson and Club Carlson are of the order of magnitude of Hyatt and Gold Passport, and it must be a zero-sum game.
It will be a giddy win for Carlson, as it rakes in the revenue from the credit card for all kinds of spend. But it's not "win-win". The sages here told us so at the advent of the "Gold Passport" credit card, and they've been proved right.
Nov 24, 2012, 10:32 am
#27
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Word-of-mouth marketing will increase as the roll-out draws nigh.
Friends, this will be a one-off thrill - the joining bonus - and then we'll be left with a credit card loyalty program whose need to maximize its own profits squeezes out the stay and hotel loyalty incentives going forward. For us loyal stayers, sort of like waking up the morning after, and...
The dynamic might be different in a huge program - Hilton? - where the management doesn't feel the need to downgrade the stay loyalty program as a result, but Carlson and Club Carlson are of the order of magnitude of Hyatt and Gold Passport, and it must be a zero-sum game.
It will be a giddy win for Carlson, as it rakes in the revenue from the credit card for all kinds of spend. But it's not "win-win". The sages here told us so at the advent of the "Gold Passport" credit card, and they've been proved right.
Friends, this will be a one-off thrill - the joining bonus - and then we'll be left with a credit card loyalty program whose need to maximize its own profits squeezes out the stay and hotel loyalty incentives going forward. For us loyal stayers, sort of like waking up the morning after, and...
The dynamic might be different in a huge program - Hilton? - where the management doesn't feel the need to downgrade the stay loyalty program as a result, but Carlson and Club Carlson are of the order of magnitude of Hyatt and Gold Passport, and it must be a zero-sum game.
It will be a giddy win for Carlson, as it rakes in the revenue from the credit card for all kinds of spend. But it's not "win-win". The sages here told us so at the advent of the "Gold Passport" credit card, and they've been proved right.
Perhaps Hyatt has a bigger focus (proportionally) on the US than "Hilton Worldwide" does?
And isn't Club Carlson way more focused internationally (I associate them more with Europe, due to the Radisson SAS subbrand, than anyplace else) than Hyatt?
So I'm nut sure it makes sense to compare a US-only credit card's effect on different programs when those program vary a lot between each other as to how US-centrric the programs are.
Besides, Hyatt started out with elite levels that meant something, but my impression from this forum is that Carlson is starting out with elite levels that already mean very little. (Ie, it's more comparable to Priority Club, isn't it?)
Nov 24, 2012, 2:46 pm
#28
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
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You haven't factored in countries.
Perhaps Hyatt has a bigger focus (proportionally) on the US than "Hilton Worldwide" does?
And isn't Club Carlson way more focused internationally (I associate them more with Europe, due to the Radisson SAS subbrand, than anyplace else) than Hyatt?
So I'm nut sure it makes sense to compare a US-only credit card's effect on different programs when those program vary a lot between each other as to how US-centrric the programs are.
Besides, Hyatt started out with elite levels that meant something, but my impression from this forum is that Carlson is starting out with elite levels that already mean very little. (Ie, it's more comparable to Priority Club, isn't it?)
Perhaps Hyatt has a bigger focus (proportionally) on the US than "Hilton Worldwide" does?
And isn't Club Carlson way more focused internationally (I associate them more with Europe, due to the Radisson SAS subbrand, than anyplace else) than Hyatt?
So I'm nut sure it makes sense to compare a US-only credit card's effect on different programs when those program vary a lot between each other as to how US-centrric the programs are.
Besides, Hyatt started out with elite levels that meant something, but my impression from this forum is that Carlson is starting out with elite levels that already mean very little. (Ie, it's more comparable to Priority Club, isn't it?)
Nov 25, 2012, 3:38 pm
#30
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657