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shakespeare Oct 28, 2023 2:21 am

Doha bus gates & security check
 
Hey everyone,

I have some QT flights come up and was wondering about a few things:

Is there any way to see in advance if you get a bus gate or regular gate when arriving or departing from Doha?

When flying in J and having a bus gate, do you always get a separate bus? Even if there are only a few people in J?

Also, is there any way to foresee if you have to go through security during a QT transfer or is it always random?

Cheers!

KingCanute Oct 28, 2023 2:56 am

Your first post - welcome!

There is no obvious way of knowing which gate you will arrive at in advance. Any notionally pre-allocated gate may change anyway if the inbound flight is delayed en route (or if the previous aircraft from that gate gets held up). I have had bus gates for all aircraft types at DOH except A380 (and no doubt someone will be along soon to detail their experience disembarking down steps from one those at some remote part of the airfield)

Yes, a separate bus.

The very overwhelming majority of all arriving passengers will pass through transfer security, so if you assume that's what will happen you will most likely be correct. I can’t remember arriving on a flight myself that bypassed transfer security since way before covid (including flights from LHR).

And an advantage of a bus gate arrival is being dropped right by the central security area at the terminal and not having to walk from a high numbered gate. Even with the airport bus tour it can sometimes be as quick as a contact gate in churning you out into the post-security areas.

Probably best not to overthink it and just deal with wherever you arrive on the day. But if you find new airport transfers stressful you can prebook the Al Maha service, which offers various levels of meet and greet packages (for a fee).

shakespeare Oct 28, 2023 3:07 am


Originally Posted by KingCanute (Post 35700211)
Your first post - welcome!

There is no obvious way of knowing which gate you will arrive at in advance. Any notionally pre-allocated gate may change anyway if the inbound flight is delayed en route (or if the previous aircraft from that gate gets held up). I have had bus gates for all aircraft types at DOH except A380 (and no doubt someone will be along soon to detail their experience disembarking down steps from one those at some remote part of the airfield)

Yes, a separate bus.

The very overwhelming majority of all arriving passengers will pass through transfer security, so if you assume that's what will happen you will most likely be correct. I can’t remember arriving on a flight myself that bypassed transfer security since way before covid (including flights from LHR).

And an advantage of a bus gate arrival is being dropped right by the central security area at the terminal and not having to walk from a high numbered gate. Even with the airport bus tour it can sometimes be as quick as a contact gate in churning you out into the post-security areas.

Probably best not to overthink it and just deal with wherever you arrive on the day. But if you find new airport transfers stressful you can prebook the Al Maha service, which offers various levels of meet and greet packages (for a fee).

Thanks so much for for the information. I typically fly through Dubai or Singapore so I'm exited to check out Doha airport.

TheFiend Oct 28, 2023 3:08 am


Originally Posted by KingCanute (Post 35700211)

The very overwhelming majority of all arriving passengers will pass through transfer security, so if you assume that's what will happen you will most likely be correct. I can’t remember arriving on a flight myself that bypassed transfer security since way before covid (including flights from LHR).

And an advantage of a bus gate arrival is being dropped right by the central security area at the terminal and not having to walk from a high numbered gate. Even with the airport bus tour it can sometimes be as quick as a contact gate in churning you out into the post-security areas.

Probably best not to overthink it and just deal with wherever you arrive on the day. But if you find new airport transfers stressful you can prebook the Al Maha service, which offers various levels of meet and greet packages (for a fee).

I think the transfer security depends on where the flight originates from.... I fly MAN-DOH-BKK and don't get sent through transfer security on the outbound flights, but do on the return flights.

shakespeare Oct 28, 2023 3:10 am


Originally Posted by TheFiend (Post 35700224)
I think the transfer security depends on where the flight originates from.... I fly MAN-DOH-BKK and don't get sent through transfer security on the outbound flights, but do on the return flights.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

KingCanute Oct 28, 2023 3:14 am


Originally Posted by TheFiend (Post 35700224)
I think the transfer security depends on where the flight originates from.... I fly MAN-DOH-BKK and don't get sent through transfer security on the outbound flights, but do on the return flights.

Yes it's supposed to be random for some flights from countries regarded as "safe", but certainly not all flights to keep the nefarious on their toes. Some also report LHR arrivals as getting a lot of free passes, and I have had that before. And ex-BKK. But not recently. If you've had a run of them you might have been lucky and may wish to consider purchasing a lottery ticket :D

brunos Oct 28, 2023 4:24 am

To add to KingCanute always excellent posts.
I think that one factor is whether the incoming flight is late (delayed).

ANyway security for J is pretty fast.

shakespeare Oct 28, 2023 4:49 am


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 35700304)
To add to KingCanute always excellent posts.
I think that one factor is whether the incoming flight is late (delayed).

ANyway security for J is pretty fast.

That's great to hear!

lost_in_translation Oct 28, 2023 4:52 am


Originally Posted by KingCanute (Post 35700211)
Your first post - welcome!

There is no obvious way of knowing which gate you will arrive at in advance. Any notionally pre-allocated gate may change anyway if the inbound flight is delayed en route (or if the previous aircraft from that gate gets held up). I have had bus gates for all aircraft types at DOH except A380 (and no doubt someone will be along soon to detail their experience disembarking down steps from one those at some remote part of the airfield)

Yes, a separate bus.

The very overwhelming majority of all arriving passengers will pass through transfer security, so if you assume that's what will happen you will most likely be correct. I can’t remember arriving on a flight myself that bypassed transfer security since way before covid (including flights from LHR).

And an advantage of a bus gate arrival is being dropped right by the central security area at the terminal and not having to walk from a high numbered gate. Even with the airport bus tour it can sometimes be as quick as a contact gate in churning you out into the post-security areas.

Probably best not to overthink it and just deal with wherever you arrive on the day. But if you find new airport transfers stressful you can prebook the Al Maha service, which offers various levels of meet and greet packages (for a fee).

Maybe I've been exceptionally lucky, but every time I've taken a flight from LHR in the last 12-18 months across maybe 6-7 flights I've bypassed transit security on arrival. I always take QR4 or QR8 and get the impression these are treated as the 'flagship' flights (there's basically always at least one person with a sign for 'XYZ Al-Thani' when you disembark) so may get special treatment as a result.

Otherwise completely agree with the post.

A warm welcome to the OP.

FlyingScientist Oct 28, 2023 9:20 am


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 35700346)
I always take QR4 or QR8 and get the impression these are treated as the 'flagship' flights (there's basically always at least one person with a sign for 'XYZ Al-Thani' when you disembark)

Ah, you are taking the Al-Thani Shuttle... :D

surryson Oct 28, 2023 11:33 am


Originally Posted by shakespeare (Post 35700176)
Hey everyone,

I have some QT flights come up and was wondering about a few things:

Is there any way to see in advance if you get a bus gate or regular gate when arriving or departing from Doha?

No

When flying in J and having a bus gate, do you always get a separate bus? Even if there are only a few people in J?

Yes

Also, is there any way to foresee if you have to go through security during a QT transfer or is it always random?

No way to foresee

Cheers!


gumbleby Oct 28, 2023 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by shakespeare (Post 35700176)
When flying in J and having a bus gate, do you always get a separate bus? Even if there are only a few people in J?

Yes, QR use "luxury" buses for J passengers. On arrival this works very well. On departure you may end up waiting for a J bus while Y passengers are walking onto their buses (and leaving) - particularly near the end of boarding.


Originally Posted by shakespeare (Post 35700176)
Is there any way to see in advance if you get a bus gate or regular gate when arriving or departing from Doha?

From and to some destinations (in my case Brussels) I've almost always had bus gates. My understanding is the probability of having a bus gate is much higher for smaller aircraft, e.g. B787.

dvs7310 Oct 29, 2023 7:55 am


Originally Posted by KingCanute (Post 35700211)
The very overwhelming majority of all arriving passengers will pass through transfer security, so if you assume that's what will happen you will most likely be correct. I can’t remember arriving on a flight myself that bypassed transfer security since way before covid (including flights from LHR).

My flights this past year, arrival from DFW real gate, no security. TBS, real gate and security, DUB bus gate and security. I have a feeling bus gate always means transit security.

nilsfr69 Oct 29, 2023 8:34 am

Bus "gate" arrival recently from Berlin, late flight, got let out in the general Terminal (no sec) near C gates, ground floor. First time to arrive this way. basically went inside through one of the empty departure gates

asnovici Oct 29, 2023 12:08 pm

Do F class passengers to or MLE get a separate but from J passengers or F and J are on the same bus?

Also, if one is at Al Sawfa and has a F flight to MLE, do we need to walk to the gate or is there a bus option directly from the lounge to the aircraft?


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