A350 grounding - what is the longer term solution beyond re-utilising A330s?
Sep 13, 2022, 7:35 am
#76
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Not only that but the widespread sub-contracting of flights to other airlines - either directly or indirectly. Finnair for example was perfectly fine for me when I flew them in July.. but if I book QR I don't want to end up on AY between Doha and CPH/HEL/OSL/ARN etc.
Although not that I can afford to fly QR these days.
Although not that I can afford to fly QR these days.
Sep 13, 2022, 7:50 am
#77
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Not only that but the widespread sub-contracting of flights to other airlines - either directly or indirectly. Finnair for example was perfectly fine for me when I flew them in July.. but if I book QR I don't want to end up on AY between Doha and CPH/HEL/OSL/ARN etc.
Although not that I can afford to fly QR these days.
Although not that I can afford to fly QR these days.
Sep 13, 2022, 12:31 pm
#78
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Not only that but the widespread sub-contracting of flights to other airlines - either directly or indirectly. Finnair for example was perfectly fine for me when I flew them in July.. but if I book QR I don't want to end up on AY between Doha and CPH/HEL/OSL/ARN etc.
Although not that I can afford to fly QR these days.
Although not that I can afford to fly QR these days.
Sep 13, 2022, 3:10 pm
#79
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Imagine someone (who isn't well versed in the field of aviation) booking a flight with QR from CPH to KUL, expecting Qsuites and what not (an average traveller might be misinformed), only to have it all shredded to pieces when they realize they'd be flying on a Finnair metal, a few hours in DOH (probably the only true QR experience), before getting on a MH A330.
Sep 14, 2022, 12:38 pm
#80
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Basically someone in QR needs to get pragmatic (put their ego aside) & make amends with airbus or they shall be at the mercy of Boeing with no room to negotiate & a lot of unhappy pax. If Boeing has more issues & further delays to their deliveries god bless QR for putting all their eggs in one basket. Someone at the top needs to take responsibility & step down at QR.
Sep 20, 2022, 9:55 am
#81
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Imagine someone (who isn't well versed in the field of aviation) booking a flight with QR from CPH to KUL, expecting Qsuites and what not (an average traveller might be misinformed), only to have it all shredded to pieces when they realize they'd be flying on a Finnair metal, a few hours in DOH (probably the only true QR experience), before getting on a MH A330.
Sep 20, 2022, 12:58 pm
#82
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Hmm, in comparison to other airlines Qatar is still better in communicating it. When you book a flight in J you see the picture of the product and you can also easily figure out what airplane you will fly. Also it is mentioned during the booking process if it is QSuites or not. Other airlines are way worse, means you cant see what product you book and it might be hard to find out.
Sep 20, 2022, 1:08 pm
#83
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Hmm, in comparison to other airlines Qatar is still better in communicating it. When you book a flight in J you see the picture of the product and you can also easily figure out what airplane you will fly. Also it is mentioned during the booking process if it is QSuites or not. Other airlines are way worse, means you cant see what product you book and it might be hard to find out.
Sep 20, 2022, 1:12 pm
#84
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Hmm, in comparison to other airlines Qatar is still better in communicating it. When you book a flight in J you see the picture of the product and you can also easily figure out what airplane you will fly. Also it is mentioned during the booking process if it is QSuites or not. Other airlines are way worse, means you cant see what product you book and it might be hard to find out.
Sep 22, 2022, 12:08 am
#85
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Qsuite ist just here for advertising/image... but people will be disappointed.
Sep 22, 2022, 1:00 am
#86
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The airlines have always used a the stellar version of their cabin product to advertise, that is nothing new. Pre Pandemic QR wanted to agressively convert all aircraft to the new Qsuites but the A350 misery has thrown a spanner in that plan. They have a decent market share and have to operate a certain network to make the entire concept work. So patchwork it is. Sadly this only works right now because other airlines have overcapacity for a number of reasons. Over time that topic will address itself: either the capacity will be used as the market(s) recover or the wetleasing airline will return the aircraft to the lessor(s) because they don't need it. Hopefully QR gets all the B789 by then
Sep 22, 2022, 5:07 am
#88
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-A
Sep 23, 2022, 8:58 am
#89
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Does any one have stats from a couple months ago? I think they have since grounded more A359s the past two months? They’re probably trying as best as they can not to ground additional A35Ks as those are critically needed for LAX/SFO.
Total 29 frames grounded:
A35K - 12/19 operational, 7 grounded (A7 ANB-H)
A359 - 12/34 operational, 22 grounded (A7 ALA-L, P, T, V-X; A7 AME-I)
Total 29 frames grounded:
A35K - 12/19 operational, 7 grounded (A7 ANB-H)
A359 - 12/34 operational, 22 grounded (A7 ALA-L, P, T, V-X; A7 AME-I)
