AAB threatens to leave oneworld
#91
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#92
Join Date: Sep 2016
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As I mentioned earlier in post #71 , CX is nowhere near QR in Europe, neither in coverage nor frequency. I think QR serves around 40 airports these days, while CX must be something below 10. So oneworld's sparse coverage in all of Europe except for the western rim would get even worse.
#93
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Milan
Programs: QR Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 420
no worries about QR leaving OW now
everything is great now that Royal Air Maroc has come to the rescue (sarc+)
the article below will be good for a laugh
https://simpleflying.com/royal-air-m...eave-oneworld/
despite AAB being incredibly pompous and self-important, I would venture to guess that he is smart enough not to shoot himself in the other foot
everything is great now that Royal Air Maroc has come to the rescue (sarc+)
the article below will be good for a laugh
https://simpleflying.com/royal-air-m...eave-oneworld/
despite AAB being incredibly pompous and self-important, I would venture to guess that he is smart enough not to shoot himself in the other foot
Last edited by #1son; Dec 9, 2018 at 1:21 pm
#94
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 776
no worries about QR leaving OW now
everything is great now that Royal Air Maroc has come to the rescue (sarc+)
the article below will be good for a laugh
https://simpleflying.com/royal-air-m...eave-oneworld/
despite AAB being incredibly pompous and self-important, I would venture to guess that he is smart enough not to shoot himself in the other foot
everything is great now that Royal Air Maroc has come to the rescue (sarc+)
the article below will be good for a laugh
https://simpleflying.com/royal-air-m...eave-oneworld/
despite AAB being incredibly pompous and self-important, I would venture to guess that he is smart enough not to shoot himself in the other foot
#95
Join Date: Dec 2002
Programs: QR Plat
Posts: 2,433
RAM could replace some markets where QR makes money, but it would be a huge miss on what I assume is one of their biggest markets, the Europe-Asia routes. Also RAM would not be suited for Africa-Asia, which is an increasingly important market. If RAM had a better presence in northern Europe I'd consider them for my Europe-East Africa flights, as they are just as out of the way as QR is.
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#98
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: BA(GGL) QF LTS CX AM, Hilton Diamond, PPL(A)
Posts: 1,654
Oneworld prepared for QR to leave (SCMP Article)
Can be found here.
I think QR are bluffing. Say hello to more losses / less passengers I reckon if they leave OW. I only flew them because of this alliance.
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https://beta.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...-giving-trying
https://beta.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/2178204/oneworld-prepared-qatar-airways-leave-it-not-giving-trying
I think QR are bluffing. Say hello to more losses / less passengers I reckon if they leave OW. I only flew them because of this alliance.
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https://beta.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...-giving-trying
https://beta.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/2178204/oneworld-prepared-qatar-airways-leave-it-not-giving-trying
#99
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I would stop using QR if they leave OW except for the occasional spectacular fare, like $1,200 roundtrip CMB-PHL in J that I got in January.
#100
Join Date: Nov 2018
Programs: Enrich
Posts: 449
Well, other reason might be they saw China Southern could be a potential OW member, and can help them fill up the domestic connection in China, which may help them boost their revenue. So remain in OW could be a better choice
#101
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,016
Just wondering... AAB has complained about AA talking .... and trying to prevent QR's IG investment, so it's understandable that he is mad at AA. He has also been complaining about QF cooperating with EK, and it's understandable that he is pissed about that; DOH is just as strategically located as DXB, so a cooperation with QR would have worked just as fine as a cooperation with EK. However, I've not seen him complaining about MH doing exactly the same thing with EK on the Europe-DXB-KUL route. Is there something different with the QF EK deal compared to the MH QF deal, or have I missed something?
I know that QF allows you to credit QF codeshares on EK metal to AA, BA and possibly other Oneworld programmes (have we seen any testcases where a Oneworld programme has denied a mileage credit of these codeshares?), but if this is the difference, then couldn't AAB simply ask BA to block those FFP transactions to at least reduce the number of Europeans who take the QF EK codeshares?
Is there perhaps an upcoming renegotiation of the QF EK deal where QR might be hoping that QF will be willing to switch from EK to QR?
I know that QF allows you to credit QF codeshares on EK metal to AA, BA and possibly other Oneworld programmes (have we seen any testcases where a Oneworld programme has denied a mileage credit of these codeshares?), but if this is the difference, then couldn't AAB simply ask BA to block those FFP transactions to at least reduce the number of Europeans who take the QF EK codeshares?
Is there perhaps an upcoming renegotiation of the QF EK deal where QR might be hoping that QF will be willing to switch from EK to QR?
Last edited by Im a new user; Dec 17, 2018 at 6:43 am
#103
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#105
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 135
Tapping into the collective wisdom: with the ongoing discussion about QR leaving OW, should I refrain from booking our summer holidays to SIN on QR knowing that we risk to get no TP and Avios in BAEC?
What are your thoughts? Summer is still 8 months away, a lot can change in the mean time.
Stan
What are your thoughts? Summer is still 8 months away, a lot can change in the mean time.
Stan