Aug 24, 2018, 6:27 am
Last edit by: quinzinho
For those flying, by all means enter your flight details below so we can see if anyone is flying together.
Eating Options and Tips - https://trip101.com/article/penang-food-guide-23-things-that-will-make-your-waistline-grow
Activities and Experiences - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penang_Hill_Railway --- https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g298302-Activities-Penang.html
Hotels - https://www.panpacific.com/en/hotels-and-resorts/pr-penang.html ---
27-OCT-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH msm2000uk
28-OCT-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN msm2000uk
30-OCT-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH msm2000uk
31-OCT-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR msm2000uk
31-OCT-18 BA1442 LHR-EDI msm2000uk
10-NOV-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH godsavethepoints
11-NOV-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN godsavethepoints
17-NOV-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH godsavethepoints
18-NOV-18 BA7007 DOH-LHR godsavethepoints
18-NOV-18 BA1446 LHR-EDI godsavethepoints
08-DEC-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH msm2000uk
08-DEC-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH scallywag72
09-DEC-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN msm2000uk
09-DEC-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN scallywag72
09-DEC-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH msm2000uk
09-DEC-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH scallywag72
10-DEC-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR msm2000uk
10-DEC-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR scallywag72
10-DEC-18 BA1440 LHR-EDI msm2000uk
10-DEC-18 BA1440 LHR-EDI scallywag72
11-JAN-19 BA1441 EDI-LHR victairinternational
11-JAN-19 BA7008 LHR-DOH victairinternational
12-JAN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN victairinternational
13 -JAN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH victairinternational
14-JAN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR victairinternational
14-JAN-19 BA1440 LHR-EDI victairinternational
19-JAN-19 BA2880 EDI-DOH Wbeest
20-JAN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN Wbeest
20-JAN-19 BA1459 EDI-LHR KARFA
24-JAN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH Wbeest
25-JAN-19 BA2881 DOH-EDI Wbeest
02-FEB-19 BA2880 EDI-DOH S_W_S
03-FEB-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN S_W_S
16-FEB-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH S_W_S
17-FEB-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR S_W_S
17-FEB-19 BA1442 LHR-EDI S_W_S
24-MAR-19 BA8719 EDI-LCY armouredant
25-MAR-19 BA7008 LHR-DOH armouredant
26-MAR-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN armouredant
20-APR-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH armouredant
21-APR-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR armouredant
03-JUN-19 BA1441 EDI-LHR IAANN
03-JUN-19 BA7004 LHR-DOH IAANN
04-JUN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN IAANN
08-JUN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH IAANN
09-JUN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR IAANN
09-JUN-19 BA1438 LHR-EDI IAANN
28-JUN-19 BA7004 LHR-DOH KARFA
29-JUN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN KARFA
29-JUN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH KARFA
30-JUN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR KARFA
06-JUL-19 BA1442 LHR-EDI KARFA
Eating Options and Tips - https://trip101.com/article/penang-food-guide-23-things-that-will-make-your-waistline-grow
Activities and Experiences - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penang_Hill_Railway --- https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g298302-Activities-Penang.html
Hotels - https://www.panpacific.com/en/hotels-and-resorts/pr-penang.html ---
27-OCT-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH msm2000uk
28-OCT-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN msm2000uk
30-OCT-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH msm2000uk
31-OCT-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR msm2000uk
31-OCT-18 BA1442 LHR-EDI msm2000uk
10-NOV-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH godsavethepoints
11-NOV-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN godsavethepoints
17-NOV-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH godsavethepoints
18-NOV-18 BA7007 DOH-LHR godsavethepoints
18-NOV-18 BA1446 LHR-EDI godsavethepoints
08-DEC-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH msm2000uk
08-DEC-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH scallywag72
09-DEC-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN msm2000uk
09-DEC-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN scallywag72
09-DEC-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH msm2000uk
09-DEC-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH scallywag72
10-DEC-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR msm2000uk
10-DEC-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR scallywag72
10-DEC-18 BA1440 LHR-EDI msm2000uk
10-DEC-18 BA1440 LHR-EDI scallywag72
11-JAN-19 BA1441 EDI-LHR victairinternational
11-JAN-19 BA7008 LHR-DOH victairinternational
12-JAN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN victairinternational
13 -JAN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH victairinternational
14-JAN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR victairinternational
14-JAN-19 BA1440 LHR-EDI victairinternational
19-JAN-19 BA2880 EDI-DOH Wbeest
20-JAN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN Wbeest
20-JAN-19 BA1459 EDI-LHR KARFA
24-JAN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH Wbeest
25-JAN-19 BA2881 DOH-EDI Wbeest
02-FEB-19 BA2880 EDI-DOH S_W_S
03-FEB-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN S_W_S
16-FEB-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH S_W_S
17-FEB-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR S_W_S
17-FEB-19 BA1442 LHR-EDI S_W_S
24-MAR-19 BA8719 EDI-LCY armouredant
25-MAR-19 BA7008 LHR-DOH armouredant
26-MAR-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN armouredant
20-APR-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH armouredant
21-APR-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR armouredant
03-JUN-19 BA1441 EDI-LHR IAANN
03-JUN-19 BA7004 LHR-DOH IAANN
04-JUN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN IAANN
08-JUN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH IAANN
09-JUN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR IAANN
09-JUN-19 BA1438 LHR-EDI IAANN
28-JUN-19 BA7004 LHR-DOH KARFA
29-JUN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN KARFA
29-JUN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH KARFA
30-JUN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR KARFA
06-JUL-19 BA1442 LHR-EDI KARFA
The Satay Fare EDI-PEN-EDI
Nov 8, 2018, 2:58 am
#196
Join Date: May 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA - Gold
Posts: 93
I'm not sure there are enough people in PEN to necessarily warrant QR flying there if I'm honest, but I would assume the local government paid a subsidy to QR, and perhaps there is also some cargo benefit to it.
If my assumptions are wrong, and it's entirely possible, I can't see the route being long lived.
M
If my assumptions are wrong, and it's entirely possible, I can't see the route being long lived.
M
Nov 8, 2018, 3:15 am
#198
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,008
I'm not sure there are enough people in PEN to necessarily warrant QR flying there if I'm honest, but I would assume the local government paid a subsidy to QR, and perhaps there is also some cargo benefit to it.
If my assumptions are wrong, and it's entirely possible, I can't see the route being long lived.
M
If my assumptions are wrong, and it's entirely possible, I can't see the route being long lived.
M
MH tried PEN LHR, but there simply wasn't demand at the right fare levels to support the route.
Someone here said that Penang is a hot-spot for Gulf tourism. I see no evidence for that, and don't see the other MEA's rushing to follow QR's lead .....
I'm afraid DOH PEN could follow DOH UTP down the pan. Though if QR Towers could drum up some Cardiff Penang passengers they might save TWO routes
Nov 8, 2018, 5:00 am
#202
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,948
Penang folk do quite well with escape routes through regional hubs. As well as KL, they have Singapore and Bangkok, all with full-service carriers and low-costers. Cathay & friends do Hong Kong, and there's LCC to Jakarta. Also direct services to other China destinations.
MH tried PEN LHR, but there simply wasn't demand at the right fare levels to support the route.
Someone here said that Penang is a hot-spot for Gulf tourism. I see no evidence for that, and don't see the other MEA's rushing to follow QR's lead .....
I'm afraid DOH PEN could follow DOH UTP down the pan. Though if QR Towers could drum up some Cardiff Penang passengers they might save TWO routes
MH tried PEN LHR, but there simply wasn't demand at the right fare levels to support the route.
Someone here said that Penang is a hot-spot for Gulf tourism. I see no evidence for that, and don't see the other MEA's rushing to follow QR's lead .....
I'm afraid DOH PEN could follow DOH UTP down the pan. Though if QR Towers could drum up some Cardiff Penang passengers they might save TWO routes
I cannot recall seeing any Gulf 'locals' on my flights either to/from PEN, and as I walked around PEN I certainly saw no evidence of it being a major tourism spot for those based in the Middle East.
I have absolutely no grounds to assume this route will disappear, but purely based on passenger numbers, I cannot see how it is sustainable.
M
Nov 8, 2018, 9:55 am
#203
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: London
Programs: AAdvantage, and BAEC in name only
Posts: 802
I am booked on this fare at the end of Feb, and was slightly alarmed to see the comments about the route not surviving. But actually going to KUL or SIN instead would be a pretty good alternative.
Nov 13, 2018, 4:11 pm
#204
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold (and other non-status plastic)
Posts: 1,889
Just a quick plea to anyone on a Satay fare... Don't go to the beach, or expect great 5* hotels - you'll be disappointed. But do visit old Georgetown and the UNESCO World Heritage Site and look around (instagram.com/p/Bpv-rNsAPp0/). I haven't been to the city centre for years, and I was really impressed at how the centre has been regenerated and preserved (the E&O not so much...). And the street food really is as good as everyone says.
not till next April though
Nov 14, 2018, 4:59 pm
#206
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: BRS
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,993
Nov 15, 2018, 2:55 am
#208
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cardiff
Programs: qatar airways platinum
Posts: 731
Penang folk do quite well with escape routes through regional hubs. As well as KL, they have Singapore and Bangkok, all with full-service carriers and low-costers. Cathay & friends do Hong Kong, and there's LCC to Jakarta. Also direct services to other China destinations.
MH tried PEN LHR, but there simply wasn't demand at the right fare levels to support the route.
Someone here said that Penang is a hot-spot for Gulf tourism. I see no evidence for that, and don't see the other MEA's rushing to follow QR's lead .....
I'm afraid DOH PEN could follow DOH UTP down the pan. Though if QR Towers could drum up some Cardiff Penang passengers they might save TWO routes
MH tried PEN LHR, but there simply wasn't demand at the right fare levels to support the route.
Someone here said that Penang is a hot-spot for Gulf tourism. I see no evidence for that, and don't see the other MEA's rushing to follow QR's lead .....
I'm afraid DOH PEN could follow DOH UTP down the pan. Though if QR Towers could drum up some Cardiff Penang passengers they might save TWO routes
Nov 15, 2018, 3:28 am
#209
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,578
Nov 15, 2018, 3:53 am
#210
Moderator: Qatar Airways
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Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,948
I dare say QR did a decent deal with CWL airport management, but the pricing just isn't attractive enough to encourage the loads to favour CWL over LHR/LGW/BHX...and I don't believe there is enough local CWL demand to satisfy the route alone.
M