Major QRPC Changes - effective 27 May 2018
May 28, 2018, 5:39 am
#181
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Air Canada is a given, Europe works, Middle East too, Asia for sure. USA-based airlines would be ok too if not for Uncle Sam.
May 28, 2018, 5:44 am
#182
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I am not based anywhere but I fly the most often to Canada and Asia. So pretty much all airlines are game for me, except those from South America and Australia / NZ.
Air Canada is a given, Europe works, Middle East too, Asia for sure. USA-based airlines would be ok too if not for Uncle Sam.
Air Canada is a given, Europe works, Middle East too, Asia for sure. USA-based airlines would be ok too if not for Uncle Sam.
May 28, 2018, 5:56 am
#183
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As noted above, the big downside to the American carriers is the need to transit in the USA which is often not the best experience. I would agree that the AA hard product is good however.
May 28, 2018, 6:10 am
#184
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May 28, 2018, 6:15 am
#185
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May 28, 2018, 6:26 am
#186
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Have you done the math of AA vs AY? If not ever flying AA or AY. Reality is that I am more likely to fly AY once or twice (unlike AA), and I would get entry into Flagship lounges if I use AY to earn on QR.
Obviously QR>AY, but AY has prices year-round Canada to Asia for $2,500 USD so I can see myself compromising once in a while and book with AY rather than QR when I need to book this route.
Obviously QR>AY, but AY has prices year-round Canada to Asia for $2,500 USD so I can see myself compromising once in a while and book with AY rather than QR when I need to book this route.
Not excactly at the moment - I did book EK ex Germany to BKK in J for 200 EUR less than the best QR offer and I´ll get 3 times the A380, one time B777 (I guess that one will not be so "amazing") and will be picked up at start / destination by a limo service for free (value approx 300 EUR).
AA applies a formula in calculating EQDs for partner flights. While I think that the formula is not public, the prevailing sentiment seems to be that it will be something like 30% of BIS miles. Perhaps someone here knows more about this than I.
May 28, 2018, 6:50 am
#187
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A QR flight for $1,500 was the January 2017 sale, right? I don't recall anything remotely close to this price in the January 2018 sale. If so, which route? I must have completely missed it. This year I only saw CMB-PHL for $1,200 in J as a good sale.
May 28, 2018, 6:58 am
#188
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QR sale prices have not been nearly as good as they were recently. We regularly used to get selected Europe - Far East destinations for just over £1000 in the sales but haven't seen anything like that for a while.
May 28, 2018, 8:18 am
#189
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Yes, I was talking CMB-PHL during that sale. Roundtrip positioning between BKK and CMB, and then between PHL and BOS adds about $800 in total, so still pretty freakin' cheap.
May 28, 2018, 8:48 am
#190
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We saw an excellent ex-MAN sale earlier this year though, and there has been a smattering of decent fares ex-Scandinavia.
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May 28, 2018, 8:55 am
#191
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Yes and no - there have been some c.£1k to BKK/HKG etc. deals post-Brexit (mostly from Eastern Europe or Italy) but not for some time. Additionally, the cheapest ex-Scandi fares (including the spate of ones to Australia and New Zealand) also seem to have stopped this year. The only notable fares from Europe since January I think have been the MAN ones.
May 28, 2018, 9:12 am
#192
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: BE
Programs: EY, TG basic levels ; QRPC platinum
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[QUOTE=escape4;29800382]So with this itinerary, CX 8.33 flights needed for free flight in J, QR 9.94 flights (if QR gold). I am guessing it's very close between the two if you are QR plat rather than QR gold. So despite the massive depreciation, QR is not so out of line with CX? Maybe QR looks worse on other routes, but not this one.
Last edited by traveler_ron; May 28, 2018 at 10:47 am Reason: oops forgot to add my own comment ... not used to this yet ... this quote is from escape4
May 28, 2018, 9:13 am
#193
Join Date: Nov 2016
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In theory partially Ok but …1) The number of earned/needed (Asia) Miles is the same regardless of the loyalty level with CX. While with QRPC you need to be/keep at least gold level to get at 9,94 (or platinum for better) otherwise it’s 16,52 against 8,33.2) CX doesn’t charge 50USD per sector (in my case 200USD for 4 sectors)3) very very poor availability of award possibilities with QR at ‘standard’ level ; e.g. I checked availability for a period of about 5 months… NOTHING standard…. all Q2 … sorry I have to mention the ONE exception I found (for totally impossible flight days for me) with lay over in DOH respectively ONLY 8 and 10 hours … very ‘convenient’ when you know the two one way sectors combined are just over 12 hours.So what is the difference in practice?QR burgundy 16,52 *Q2 = 33,04 against CX Asia miles 8,33 (ratio almost 4X more flights needed)QR gold 9,94*Q2 = 19,88 against CX Asia miles 8,33 (ratio almost 2,4X more flights needed)My conclusion: in reality that is a ONEWORLD of difference
May 28, 2018, 10:38 am
#194
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Last edited by Raffles; May 28, 2018 at 12:27 pm
May 28, 2018, 5:25 pm
#195
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