Earning only 55 qmiles for first class BA flight LHR-SFO
Jan 12, 2018, 2:24 am
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Earning only 55 qmiles for first class BA flight LHR-SFO
Is it a general trend that earning qpoints for partner airlines a bad idea? 55 qpoints for first class BA flight from LHR to SFO seems excessively low.
Last edited by enefem; Jan 12, 2018 at 3:35 am Reason: changed qmiles to qpoints
Jan 12, 2018, 2:38 am
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BAEC makes it more attractive to earn your TPs by flying oneworld airlines other than BA by, e.g., giving cheap AA F flights intra-US the same TPs as a long-haul BA flight in J (until recently they were equivalent to a long-haul BA flight in F!) and giving someone who chooses to fly LHR-JFK-SFO in F twice as many TPs as someone that takes LHR-SFO F direct on BA only. QR, in contrast, penalises flying anything but QR for the purposes of earning status.
My approach is to credit all QR flights to QRPC and credit almost all other oneworld flights to BAEC. Only you know which programme(s) works best for you!
Jan 12, 2018, 2:46 am
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Assume you mean 55 Qpoints; 55 Qmiles would indeed be excessively low! QRPC is in many ways the reverse of the likes of BAEC.
BAEC makes it more attractive to earn your TPs by flying oneworld airlines other than BA by, e.g., giving cheap AA F flights intra-US the same TPs as a long-haul BA flight in J (until recently they were equivalent to a long-haul BA flight in F!) and giving someone who chooses to fly LHR-JFK-SFO in F twice as many TPs as someone that takes LHR-SFO F direct on BA only. QR, in contrast, penalises flying anything but QR for the purposes of earning status.
My approach is to credit all QR flights to QRPC and credit almost all other oneworld flights to BAEC. Only you know which programme(s) works best for you!
BAEC makes it more attractive to earn your TPs by flying oneworld airlines other than BA by, e.g., giving cheap AA F flights intra-US the same TPs as a long-haul BA flight in J (until recently they were equivalent to a long-haul BA flight in F!) and giving someone who chooses to fly LHR-JFK-SFO in F twice as many TPs as someone that takes LHR-SFO F direct on BA only. QR, in contrast, penalises flying anything but QR for the purposes of earning status.
My approach is to credit all QR flights to QRPC and credit almost all other oneworld flights to BAEC. Only you know which programme(s) works best for you!
Jan 12, 2018, 3:00 am
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Assume you mean 55 Qpoints; 55 Qmiles would indeed be excessively low! QRPC is in many ways the reverse of the likes of BAEC.
BAEC makes it more attractive to earn your TPs by flying oneworld airlines other than BA by, e.g., giving cheap AA F flights intra-US the same TPs as a long-haul BA flight in J (until recently they were equivalent to a long-haul BA flight in F!) and giving someone who chooses to fly LHR-JFK-SFO in F twice as many TPs as someone that takes LHR-SFO F direct on BA only. QR, in contrast, penalises flying anything but QR for the purposes of earning status.
My approach is to credit all QR flights to QRPC and credit almost all other oneworld flights to BAEC. Only you know which programme(s) works best for you!
BAEC makes it more attractive to earn your TPs by flying oneworld airlines other than BA by, e.g., giving cheap AA F flights intra-US the same TPs as a long-haul BA flight in J (until recently they were equivalent to a long-haul BA flight in F!) and giving someone who chooses to fly LHR-JFK-SFO in F twice as many TPs as someone that takes LHR-SFO F direct on BA only. QR, in contrast, penalises flying anything but QR for the purposes of earning status.
My approach is to credit all QR flights to QRPC and credit almost all other oneworld flights to BAEC. Only you know which programme(s) works best for you!
What puzzles me is that QRPC even penalizes Qpoints for QR business R class, whereas in BAEC you get a full tier points for QR business R class. Weird!
Jan 12, 2018, 7:13 am
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I am a new member and just learning about qmiles/qpoints. I am planning to fly HEL to BKK. However to position I have to fly from DUB using either Norweigan or Finnair. Finnair is working into over twice the price, however I would gain 20 Q Points which would carry me into Gold membership. Do you think this is worth it? My travel will include 3-4 trips to South East Asia per year.
Jan 12, 2018, 7:14 am
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It's difficult to tell whether BA is being too generous or QR is being too stingy, but yes there is big home bias for flying QR. Nothing we can really do about it, other than to just keep booking the great sales fares.
Jan 12, 2018, 7:29 am
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I'd say being gold is worth more than a few hundred euros, so go for it. You get 40 QCredits as a goldmember (hey, goldmember) which is enough to upgrade your Asia trip one way which is probably worth 500 euros by itself, not to mention all the other bonuses you get (lounge access, higher earnings)
Does a Finnair "Value" ticket count as K,M,P or T? It is quite hard to find on their site. This is the fare that would get me the 20QPoints.
Jan 12, 2018, 11:09 am
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Just scanned all 2017 non-award Finnair tickets I booked (I mainly used my expiring AY+ points in 2017 unfortunately), most should be value:
HEL-HKG-HEL went into O and is definitely value
CPH-HEL went into O and was value
HEL-OSL-HEL in Campaign went to W
HEL-OUL-HEL in Pro went to Y (corporate account)
HEL-CDG-Hel went to S and I think it was Value but it's not saying anything on the email (also a corporate account)
edit: just looked at the QCalculator for my upcoming HKG trip, a whopping 2400 miles and 30 qpoints as a QR plat from that roundtrip. almost tempted to credit to finnair.
double edit: just looked at HEL-MAN which was a BA booking as part of a larger itinerary, that went into K and gave me a fair bit of miles. The finnair app said Pro though.
Jan 12, 2018, 12:45 pm
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Finnair value can be a lot of booking classes, I think it's possible for the cheapest + value tickets to have overlapping booking classes as well (because value is never much more expensive so you see much more variation in ticket price across time)... You can see it on the Finnair site when booking a flight (or used to be able to at least). When you go through the first flight selection thing, on the second page when you click the flights you have chosen (like literally click the flight number) it should open a pop up that has the booking class you will book into.
Just scanned all 2017 non-award Finnair tickets I booked (I mainly used my expiring AY+ points in 2017 unfortunately), most should be value:
HEL-HKG-HEL went into O and is definitely value
CPH-HEL went into O and was value
HEL-OSL-HEL in Campaign went to W
HEL-OUL-HEL in Pro went to Y (corporate account)
HEL-CDG-Hel went to S and I think it was Value but it's not saying anything on the email (also a corporate account)
edit: just looked at the QCalculator for my upcoming HKG trip, a whopping 2400 miles and 30 qpoints as a QR plat from that roundtrip. almost tempted to credit to finnair.
double edit: just looked at HEL-MAN which was a BA booking as part of a larger itinerary, that went into K and gave me a fair bit of miles. The finnair app said Pro though.
Just scanned all 2017 non-award Finnair tickets I booked (I mainly used my expiring AY+ points in 2017 unfortunately), most should be value:
HEL-HKG-HEL went into O and is definitely value
CPH-HEL went into O and was value
HEL-OSL-HEL in Campaign went to W
HEL-OUL-HEL in Pro went to Y (corporate account)
HEL-CDG-Hel went to S and I think it was Value but it's not saying anything on the email (also a corporate account)
edit: just looked at the QCalculator for my upcoming HKG trip, a whopping 2400 miles and 30 qpoints as a QR plat from that roundtrip. almost tempted to credit to finnair.
double edit: just looked at HEL-MAN which was a BA booking as part of a larger itinerary, that went into K and gave me a fair bit of miles. The finnair app said Pro though.
Jan 13, 2018, 7:05 am
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or just fly DUB-LHR-HEL?
Jan 13, 2018, 12:13 pm
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Jan 14, 2018, 11:56 pm
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