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Old Sep 6, 2018, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by bmibaby737
Cardiff Airport July stats are out.

Doha saw 10,160 passengers which is around 163 per flight and a load factor of 65% (not my calculations but seems about right). For comparison, Birmingham airport saw 12,256 passengers use Qatar for July.
Where did you get the 10,160 passenger figure from? I cannot see this on the CAA airport data page.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Shuttle_Endeavour
Where did you get the 10,160 passenger figure from? I cannot see this on the CAA airport data page.
Taken from another site. What statistics is it telling you instead?
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 4:09 pm
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Nothing as yet. July figures aren’t on the CAA website, which is actually a bit later than normal.
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Old Sep 7, 2018, 12:09 am
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Pulled from another forum. This is where i got my original data, the July stats came out at some point even if they aren’t on the website now. Doha is at the bottom.

CAA Stats July 2018 European and International
Larnaca 3475
Paphos 1474 +5%
Paris CDG 8131 +47%
Tarbes-Lourdes 164 -27%
Berlin TXL 1430 -31%
Braunschweig 45
Dusseldorf 470 16%
Munich 1491 -17%
Corfu 1496 +2%
Heraklion 1859 +28%
Kefallinia 1839 +27%
Kos 1229 -26%
Rhodes 2661 -2%
Zakinthos 4846 -2%
Cork 1496 -11%
Dublin 9659 +9%
Milan MXP 2735 -16%
Rome FCO 1678 -11%
Venice 1393
Verona 1201 -26%
Amsterdam 13,060 +14%
Faro 8558 +11%
Alicante 10,603 +2%
Barcelona 3559 -20%
Ibiza 6029 -8%
Madrid 2340 +21%
Mahon 3093 -31%
Malaga 10,389 +4%
Palma de Mallorca 19,512 -1%
Reus 3266 +15%
Arrecife 4436 -1%
Las Palmas 1466 -32%
Tenerife South 7269 +3%
Antalya 2723
Dalaman 7414 +62%
Burgas 4895 -2%
Doha 10,060
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Old Sep 7, 2018, 12:52 am
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July Stats:

https://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analy...-data-2018-07/
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 6:26 am
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Yesterday's and today's Peninsular have spreads to set Cardiff hearts beating proudly. A visit from Cardiff Council to promote the city to Qatari investors.
Of course both spreads include generous plugs for the QR service to the city ....


https://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/11/09/2018/Cardiff-Council-delegation-visits-Qatar-discusses-trade,-investment-deals

https://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/12/09/2018/Cardiff-Council-delegation-visits-QIIB
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 1:13 am
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Couple of thoughts from my recent first time through CWL.

Airport signposts: The airport is badly signposted both in general and specifically where the different car-parks are. The main road signs on approach are being overgrown by trees and the car-park signage is non-existent. When you get to the last roundabout before the airport the little airport symbol takes you towards the BA hangar and Car Park 2 end of the airport and there is no simple way to get back to Car Park 1. You have to find a place to turn round and go back out onto the bypass. I'm sure it's easy once you've been there a couple of times but as a first time user it was a total pain so have a good look at the map.

Check-in / Security: Quick and efficient. Zero queue at either when I went through. As a biz pax there is a priority lane for security. (no queue in the normal lane either)

Lounge: No 'proper' food (I think I'd just missed lunch) but a really nice unique mix of Welsh beers and spirits. If you don't need to eat then it could be an interesting few hours of sampling stuff you won't get elsewhere. Staff were very friendly as well.

Duty-free: The airport duty free shop comes up on my credit card statement as "Welsh Sports South Glamorgan" no really, I have no idea why. Not the biggest range but Ł14 for a 1L bottle of Tanqueray is OK.

Boarding, it's not a big airport, 5 min slow walk from the lounge to the aircraft door.

On return:
Immigration: It's all 'human' immigration, no auto gates (see other articles), I was one of the first off so zero delays, decent staff number (about 4 or 5 staffed booths) but I suspect if you're at the back there could be a bit of a wait.

Baggage: Took 25 minutes from the aircraft parking till my bag was on the belt. First bag was probably a minute or two before that and there was a steady stream following. Not the fastest but not too shabby either and quite acceptable.

Load in J outbound was about 50% inbound was more like 75% and the back looked really busy.

Overall pretty decent, nothing to put me off using it again (now I know where the car parks are). Definitely in the travel mix with BHX and LHR.
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by tinkicker
Couple of thoughts from my recent first time through CWL.

Airport signposts: The airport is badly signposted both in general and specifically where the different car-parks are. The main road signs on approach are being overgrown by trees and the car-park signage is non-existent. When you get to the last roundabout before the airport the little airport symbol takes you towards the BA hangar and Car Park 2 end of the airport and there is no simple way to get back to Car Park 1. You have to find a place to turn round and go back out onto the bypass. I'm sure it's easy once you've been there a couple of times but as a first time user it was a total pain so have a good look at the map.

Check-in / Security: Quick and efficient. Zero queue at either when I went through. As a biz pax there is a priority lane for security. (no queue in the normal lane either)

Lounge: No 'proper' food (I think I'd just missed lunch) but a really nice unique mix of Welsh beers and spirits. If you don't need to eat then it could be an interesting few hours of sampling stuff you won't get elsewhere. Staff were very friendly as well.

Duty-free: The airport duty free shop comes up on my credit card statement as "Welsh Sports South Glamorgan" no really, I have no idea why. Not the biggest range but Ł14 for a 1L bottle of Tanqueray is OK.

Boarding, it's not a big airport, 5 min slow walk from the lounge to the aircraft door.

On return:
Immigration: It's all 'human' immigration, no auto gates (see other articles), I was one of the first off so zero delays, decent staff number (about 4 or 5 staffed booths) but I suspect if you're at the back there could be a bit of a wait.

Baggage: Took 25 minutes from the aircraft parking till my bag was on the belt. First bag was probably a minute or two before that and there was a steady stream following. Not the fastest but not too shabby either and quite acceptable.

Load in J outbound was about 50% inbound was more like 75% and the back looked really busy.

Overall pretty decent, nothing to put me off using it again (now I know where the car parks are). Definitely in the travel mix with BHX and LHR.
I doubt you missed the lunch offerings. They only offer a soup or a cawl, with chunks of bread.
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Old Sep 18, 2018, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by celtic_warrior
I doubt you missed the lunch offerings. They only offer a soup or a cawl, with chunks of bread.
can I admit to having to lookup what Cawl is...
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Old Sep 18, 2018, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by tinkicker
can I admit to having to lookup what Cawl is...
Ha-ha(most non Welsh people would have to look it up). The Cawl they serve is really nice.

I still think they could also put on a pasta dish and some sandwiches. I have seen a few business class passengers going to costa coffee for a panini.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 2:23 pm
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The august statisics for this flight have been released.

Taken from another forum:

11, 568 pax for the month

73% LF - 185 pax per flight

Not bad for the 4th month of operation.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 10:02 pm
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Yes, Cardiff figures are 11,568 passengers in total which makes it 187 per flight - which is 74% in total.
(Don't know how you're doing your maths, but there were 11,568 passengers and 62 flights in August and 11568/62 equals 186.58(187). Then 187 is 73.6% (74%) of 254).

By comparison, Birmingham had 12,462 passengers which makes a total of 201 per flight - which is a load factor of 79% in total.

Pretty good for a route that only started a few months ago.
Obviously this doesn't tell us about yield. However, I've got quite a few fare alerts setup and CWL doesn't seem to be that much cheaper than BHX, MAN, LHR or LGW. And there definitely haven't been any J class firesales (Which I'm pretty unhappy about!).
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by TravelDream
Yes, Cardiff figures are 11,568 passengers in total which makes it 187 per flight - which is 74% in total.
(Don't know how you're doing your maths, but there were 11,568 passengers and 62 flights in August and 11568/62 equals 186.58(187). Then 187 is 73.6% (74%) of 254).

By comparison, Birmingham had 12,462 passengers which makes a total of 201 per flight - which is a load factor of 79% in total.

Pretty good for a route that only started a few months ago.
Obviously this doesn't tell us about yield. However, I've got quite a few fare alerts setup and CWL doesn't seem to be that much cheaper than BHX, MAN, LHR or LGW. And there definitely haven't been any J class firesales (Which I'm pretty unhappy about!).
i didn’t actually check the figures, they sounded pretty close in my head so just copied and pasted!
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 am
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The test is whether they can maintain relatively good numbers in the next 6 months.
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelDream
Yes, Cardiff figures are 11,568 passengers in total which makes it 187 per flight - which is 74% in total.
(Don't know how you're doing your maths, but there were 11,568 passengers and 62 flights in August and 11568/62 equals 186.58(187). Then 187 is 73.6% (74%) of 254).
Or alternatively, 11,568 seats occupied out of 15,748 available is 73.5%.
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