Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old Apr 16, 2018, 1:34 am
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: Seat54
Inaugural Flight Wiki:

Flight Number // FT username // Seat Number // Connecting from/to
QR324 : lost_in_translation : classified : QR874 (DOH-CAN)
QR323 : seat54 : 7K : QR831 (BKK - DOH)
QR324 : seat54 : 7K : QR946 (DOH - SIN)
Print Wikipost

The CWL (Cardiff) Master Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 19, 2019, 3:48 am
  #301  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cardiff
Programs: qatar airways platinum
Posts: 731
Well both my J flights to and from CWL were almost full. 3 spare seats out on Sat 9th and only 2 empty this am.

In economy it was circa 2/3rds full on both flights
celtic_warrior is offline  
Old Nov 19, 2019, 5:06 am
  #302  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: BRS
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,993
Originally Posted by celtic_warrior
Well both my J flights to and from CWL were almost full. 3 spare seats out on Sat 9th and only 2 empty this am.

In economy it was circa 2/3rds full on both flights
Should route it via BRS and fill up those spare seats!
Schwann is offline  
Old Dec 11, 2019, 5:12 am
  #303  
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 380
Saw an article in a UK business paper. The highlights:

From May to October 2019, 50,000 passengers used the route which is up 13.5% on 2018.

52% of passengers originate in the UK and 48% overseas. A shock for me is that 18% of the UK passengers are from England when the airport gets 95% of its UK users from Wales.

11% of the passengers use the route for Business and 89% for leisure.

The most popular final destinations from Cardiff
11% Doha
10% Bangkok
6% Sydney and Perth,
4% Bali
3% Kuwait, Lahore, Kuala Lumpur and Armistar.

According to QR, after 18 months the figures are encouraging, the route is maturing well compared to Birmingham and it is on track for it's 4 year maturity level.
celtic_warrior and bmibaby737 like this.
TravelDream is offline  
Old Dec 11, 2019, 7:46 am
  #304  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cardiff
Programs: qatar airways platinum
Posts: 731
The same article suggested there was scope for way more freight out of Cardiff
celtic_warrior is offline  
Old Dec 13, 2019, 4:13 am
  #305  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: BRS
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,993
I'm surprised at the number of people just going to Doha.
NoY likes this.
Schwann is offline  
Old Dec 14, 2019, 5:23 am
  #306  
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Doha, Qatar
Posts: 374
Originally Posted by Schwann
I'm surprised at the number of people just going to Doha.
Yeah me too. I’m pretty much the only one who doesn’t go towards transfers (so much so that even the staff think I’ve gone the wrong way by mistake and chase after me!)
Even when I have family or friends visiting they say the same.

Regarding the cargo side I’ve noticed a lot more Welsh made products in the shops. Yesterday I bought Welsh cheese and mince pies! Today in Monoprix I saw they had lots of Welsh lamb on sale.
Ben_W is offline  
Old Dec 15, 2019, 12:41 am
  #307  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,008
Originally Posted by Schwann
I'm surprised at the number of people just going to Doha.
I'm told there's quite a Qarati student community in the region, a core element of it with strong pedigree I doubt that students and any visiting families and friends make up the day-in, day-out passenger numbers, but they raised the CWL profile among potential targets when new routes were considered.

Now, what about East Midlands ?
IAN-UK is offline  
Old Dec 18, 2019, 4:13 pm
  #308  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: BAEC Blue, Flying Blue Silver, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 817
Originally Posted by IAN-UK
I'm told there's quite a Qarati student community in the region, a core element of it with strong pedigree I doubt that students and any visiting families and friends make up the day-in, day-out passenger numbers, but they raised the CWL profile among potential targets when new routes were considered.

Now, what about East Midlands ?
i think the Qatari’s own the liquid gas terminal in Milford Haven so that may also generate a little bit of traffic. The UK generally has strong ties with Qatar too.
bmibaby737 is offline  
Old Dec 26, 2019, 8:50 am
  #309  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: BAEC Blue, Flying Blue Silver, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 817
This route had a load factor of around 60% in November. Up over 20% on the previous year.
bmibaby737 is offline  
Old Dec 27, 2019, 5:27 pm
  #310  
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 655
Originally Posted by bmibaby737
This route had a load factor of around 60% in November. Up over 20% on the previous year.
Good improvement but seems low overall, no? What are the load factors in November for other UK routes?
Dn10 is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2020, 5:31 pm
  #311  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: BAEC Blue, Flying Blue Silver, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 817
Originally Posted by Dn10
Good improvement but seems low overall, no? What are the load factors in November for other UK routes?
i think Birmingham was only a few % higher.
bmibaby737 is offline  
Old Feb 2, 2020, 4:10 am
  #312  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: BAEC Blue, Flying Blue Silver, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 817
cardiff - doha passenger numbers up a massive 30% for December 2019 on December 2018.
MM00LL2 likes this.
bmibaby737 is offline  
Old Feb 3, 2020, 6:01 am
  #313  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cardiff
Programs: qatar airways platinum
Posts: 731
Originally Posted by bmibaby737
cardiff - doha passenger numbers up a massive 30% for December 2019 on December 2018.
Great news. looks as if the route is here to stay.
celtic_warrior is offline  
Old Feb 4, 2020, 4:20 am
  #314  
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 380
Haven't done the Cardiff figures for a few months.
It appears that 2019 was a fairly successful year for the route with just over 90,000 using the route.

In October, 7387 passengers used the route which was up 27% on last year. That makes an average of 168 per flight or a LF of 66%.

In November, 6486 passengers used the route which was up 24% on last year. That makes an average of 147 per flight or a LF of 58%.

In December, 8391 passengers used the route which was up 30% on last year. That makes an average of 191 per flight or a LF of 75%

It looks like the route is becoming more established with some pretty impressive growth after the low growth seen during the summer (but with much higher LFs). The 'slow-season' figures are still pretty poor, but summer and Christmas seem pretty decent.

2019 hasn't been the best of years for Cardiff Airport. Let's hope for a better 2020.
bmibaby737 likes this.
TravelDream is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.