A Good Airline, Yes, but Why Such Mediocre Lower Management ?
#16
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Are the numerous agents with name boards ("Mr Smith"... "Mr & Mrs Eiffeltower"... "Dr Xray"... "Family Lin Piao Zhen" etc...) greeting most arriving flights, often 10+ agents, waiting for VIPs, perform the paid "Al Whatever" Meet & Greet service, attend to Oneworld Elites, or are they sent to expedite the flagged tight connections of normal passengers ?
#17
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I may very well experience this next week (1.15 hr scheduled connection after a 17+ hrs flight, Biz Class), which makes me wonder:
Are the numerous agents with name boards ("Mr Smith"... "Mr & Mrs Eiffeltower"... "Dr Xray"... "Family Lin Piao Zhen" etc...) greeting most arriving flights, often 10+ agents, waiting for VIPs, perform the paid "Al Whatever" Meet & Greet service, attend to Oneworld Elites, or are they sent to expedite the flagged tight connections of normal passengers ?
Are the numerous agents with name boards ("Mr Smith"... "Mr & Mrs Eiffeltower"... "Dr Xray"... "Family Lin Piao Zhen" etc...) greeting most arriving flights, often 10+ agents, waiting for VIPs, perform the paid "Al Whatever" Meet & Greet service, attend to Oneworld Elites, or are they sent to expedite the flagged tight connections of normal passengers ?
#18
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I may very well experience this next week (1.15 hr scheduled connection after a 17+ hrs flight, Biz Class), which makes me wonder:
Are the numerous agents with name boards ("Mr Smith"... "Mr & Mrs Eiffeltower"... "Dr Xray"... "Family Lin Piao Zhen" etc...) greeting most arriving flights, often 10+ agents, waiting for VIPs, perform the paid "Al Whatever" Meet & Greet service, attend to Oneworld Elites, or are they sent to expedite the flagged tight connections of normal passengers ?
Are the numerous agents with name boards ("Mr Smith"... "Mr & Mrs Eiffeltower"... "Dr Xray"... "Family Lin Piao Zhen" etc...) greeting most arriving flights, often 10+ agents, waiting for VIPs, perform the paid "Al Whatever" Meet & Greet service, attend to Oneworld Elites, or are they sent to expedite the flagged tight connections of normal passengers ?
B.
#19
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I love the Qatar Airways in-flight experience. Have I had bad service, in flight sure, but overall it is outstanding.
The HIA propaganda is way over-done. They spent billions of dollars on this new airport, complete with an impaled teddy bear, but they don't have enough jet bridges so you have to ride a bus? Come'on. Maybe after the rest of the GCC completely shuts the airspace to Doha, we can get a jetbridge as opposed climbing a stair ladder and sitting on buses on the baking hot tarmac. But the inflight experience is great
The HIA propaganda is way over-done. They spent billions of dollars on this new airport, complete with an impaled teddy bear, but they don't have enough jet bridges so you have to ride a bus? Come'on. Maybe after the rest of the GCC completely shuts the airspace to Doha, we can get a jetbridge as opposed climbing a stair ladder and sitting on buses on the baking hot tarmac. But the inflight experience is great
#20
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Sorry ... the only statement here that jumped out at me as unbecoming of QR is that the food was mediocre ....
Planes are sent to remote stands. Schedules change. Connections are made. "Managers" on the ground are clueless. It all happens ... to every airline ever.
QR has a superior J lounge. They also have some of the best food I've tasted in the sky. I hope you do consider that nonstop next time so there's another seat available for me.
side note: that thing is so weird .....
Planes are sent to remote stands. Schedules change. Connections are made. "Managers" on the ground are clueless. It all happens ... to every airline ever.
QR has a superior J lounge. They also have some of the best food I've tasted in the sky. I hope you do consider that nonstop next time so there's another seat available for me.
side note: that thing is so weird .....
#21
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QR has a superior J lounge. They also have some of the best food I've tasted in the sky. I hope you do consider that nonstop next time so there's another seat available for me.
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Thank you for your wish. It is presently granted about 25% of the time.
"Best food you have tasted in the sky"? It is either gross hype or you have not flown with QR in a long time. This applies to choice, quality and quantity, not to mention items which quickly run out.
Granted for the J lounge but there too, the food has slipped in a major way.
ALL THIS BEING SAID, QR remains a superior airline, which is exactly why I allow myself to post constructive criticism as I wish QR to remain that way.
Last edited by Cofyknsult; Jul 26, 2017 at 1:36 pm
#22
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I never quite got people's grief with DOH's D/E gates. Especially with help from the travelators or the train, getting there is a matter of minutes. There are so many airports with way worse gate to gate time.
That being said, DOH's gate assignment does seem to be a bit random at times. I don't know many airports where planes as big as a 777 get the bus treatment that often, though there's definitely a connection to DOH's limited gate capacities. But just because a gate is empty at a given moment doesn't mean that it would have been free for the whole required duration.
And DOH and QR are definitely not the same company just because they share stakeholders. I often noticed subtle clues that there seems to be quite some rivalry between the two. After all, they are led by different people following different interests.
That being said, DOH's gate assignment does seem to be a bit random at times. I don't know many airports where planes as big as a 777 get the bus treatment that often, though there's definitely a connection to DOH's limited gate capacities. But just because a gate is empty at a given moment doesn't mean that it would have been free for the whole required duration.
And DOH and QR are definitely not the same company just because they share stakeholders. I often noticed subtle clues that there seems to be quite some rivalry between the two. After all, they are led by different people following different interests.
That is mostly the past now, though.
-A
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#25
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I love the Qatar Airways in-flight experience. Have I had bad service, in flight sure, but overall it is outstanding.
The HIA propaganda is way over-done. They spent billions of dollars on this new airport, complete with an impaled teddy bear, but they don't have enough jet bridges so you have to ride a bus? Come'on. Maybe after the rest of the GCC completely shuts the airspace to Doha, we can get a jetbridge as opposed climbing a stair ladder and sitting on buses on the baking hot tarmac. But the inflight experience is great
The HIA propaganda is way over-done. They spent billions of dollars on this new airport, complete with an impaled teddy bear, but they don't have enough jet bridges so you have to ride a bus? Come'on. Maybe after the rest of the GCC completely shuts the airspace to Doha, we can get a jetbridge as opposed climbing a stair ladder and sitting on buses on the baking hot tarmac. But the inflight experience is great
Sitting on the buses, is the only place I ever feel cold when at HIA. The air-con on the buses is arctic.
The jetbridges query has been answered upthread by our Resident QR Operations Expert, so I won't comment.
M
#26
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At the same time, I also agree with the comment on how boarding by bus in DOH is really easy and convenient compared to other airports. What is annoying is disembarking a heavy by bus when you have a 45 minute connection though, but it's a testament to DOH's efficiency that you can make it (trying making a 45 minute connection in LHR even without buses).
Now, I want to talk about proper bussing, lets pull up stories about being bussed to and from the far side of the old airfield, there's a proper trek.
-A
#28
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I quite like the bus ride to the terminal or out back to the aircraft. Part form a few years ago when the bus doors refused to open aircraft side and we were suck awaiting technician to fix the problem. Thankfully the Icy AC kept us cool
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Agree with your first point
Another example is the DXB service (or was, before the embargo). QR had an impressive schedule, with a flight like every hour, which they marketed as sort of a "shuttle," with dedicated check-in and inbound immigration lines at DOH.
Yet this flight often came in at a far-away gate, even at off-peak times, and sometimes required a bus transfer. For the business O&D day-tripper, which must be a core market for many these flights, you'd think that they would reserve something like gates A1-A4 and B1-B4 for all DXB flights.
I realize that that wouldn't always be easy because the aircraft might be coming from or going to a different destination, but given the large number of flights, they could surely improve the logistics. A good example of something that management probably does not pay attention to.
It would also be a nice innovation if they had a standby-type option for these flights. The airline generally doesn't do that -- and it isn't relevant anyway except for the few destinations with high frequencies -- but coming up with something for hourly DXB flights could make the service more attractive; I might lean toward that option instead of EK if my schedule was flexible and I knew that I might be able to take advantage of it. As it is now, I think one has to go to the ticketing office at the end of the terminal and change the flight instead of being able to make the change at the check-in desk, much less being able to do a real standby at the gate.
Yet this flight often came in at a far-away gate, even at off-peak times, and sometimes required a bus transfer. For the business O&D day-tripper, which must be a core market for many these flights, you'd think that they would reserve something like gates A1-A4 and B1-B4 for all DXB flights.
I realize that that wouldn't always be easy because the aircraft might be coming from or going to a different destination, but given the large number of flights, they could surely improve the logistics. A good example of something that management probably does not pay attention to.
It would also be a nice innovation if they had a standby-type option for these flights. The airline generally doesn't do that -- and it isn't relevant anyway except for the few destinations with high frequencies -- but coming up with something for hourly DXB flights could make the service more attractive; I might lean toward that option instead of EK if my schedule was flexible and I knew that I might be able to take advantage of it. As it is now, I think one has to go to the ticketing office at the end of the terminal and change the flight instead of being able to make the change at the check-in desk, much less being able to do a real standby at the gate.