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Old Mar 8, 2017, 3:40 am
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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seat

A video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg

Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html

From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.

They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.

The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.

All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.

Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247

Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.

As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!

I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!

What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.

38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%

77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BA​​​​​​C,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites

tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec

tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd

tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml

tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann












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Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by natcin
ah crap checked the qantas site and the qantas lounge only opens at 230pm.

dont think i can access the BA lounge as i do not have oneworld status.

ill just have to 'settle' for the dnata lounge then.
If you fly in business class you could visit the BA lounge. But it seems to be only opening at 3 PM
https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-...eaccess/SIN/-1
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 11:57 am
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What do you think they will do with the seats they remove from the retrofitted aircraft?
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by plunet
What do you think they will do with the seats they remove from the retrofitted aircraft?
They could fit the seats from the A350s (and later on 787s and A380) to smaller aircrafts, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it on A330/A340s as I don't know how long they plan on keeping them. It's probably a waste of space on the long route A320s. I doubt that they will end up in another aircraft. Too much customization.
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by WorldLux
They could fit the seats from the A350s (and later on 787s and A380) to smaller aircrafts, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it on A330/A340s as I don't know how long they plan on keeping them. It's probably a waste of space on the long route A320s. I doubt that they will end up in another aircraft. Too much customization.
They could end up as a "hand me down" seat in either an airline QR has a stake in (like LATAM) or on the free market. To change the appearance of the seat you would only need to change the outside panels which would be quite cheap. Compared to a whole new seat.
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by WorldLux
I'm not sure if it would be worth it on A330/A340s as I don't know how long they plan on keeping them.
Though I would love to see that, I don't think they'll fit in the 330/340s. There must have been a reason why they installed these B/E Diamond seats instead of the vastly superior Super Diamonds.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by natcin
dont think i can access the BA lounge as i do not have oneworld status.
You don't need OW status to access an OW business class lounge if traveling with an OW carrier in J. The lounge access policy differs for One World vs. Star Alliance.


Paid J ticket on an One World partner airline gives access to any One World Business Class Lounge (there are a few exceptions) regardless of whether you have status or not and likewise for a paid F. Not sure about award redemptions. Status comes in handy when flying in Economy.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by lifeonthego_k
You don't need OW status to access an OW business class lounge if traveling with an OW carrier in J. The lounge access policy differs for One World vs. Star Alliance.


Paid J ticket on an One World partner airline gives access to any One World Business Class Lounge (there are a few exceptions) regardless of whether you have status or not and likewise for a paid F. Not sure about award redemptions. Status comes in handy when flying in Economy.
hmm okay. i said that as i saw this from the BA business lounge website under "Eligibility"
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...siness-lounges

The lounges are available for passengers who are:

- flying on a scheduled British Airways flight in First, Club World or Club Europe (which i am not)

- a Silver or Gold Member of the British Airways Executive Club on a scheduled flight operated by British Airways or one of our oneworld partners (which i am not)

- a Sapphire or Emerald member of any of the oneworld airline frequent flyer programmes on a scheduled flight operated by British Airways or one of our oneworld partners (which i am not)

though, on the oneworld page, what they say contradicts the BA site, and in line with what others have echoed:

Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.


but either way, my flight departs in the morning before either the Qantas/BA lounge opens, so i guess its DNATA then haha
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 4:49 am
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Originally Posted by lifeonthego_k
You don't need OW status to access an OW business class lounge if traveling with an OW carrier in J. The lounge access policy differs for One World vs. Star Alliance.


Paid J ticket on an One World partner airline gives access to any One World Business Class Lounge (there are a few exceptions) regardless of whether you have status or not and likewise for a paid F. Not sure about award redemptions. Status comes in handy when flying in Economy.
*A has the same rules — C tix gets you access to all C lounges.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by klausa
*A has the same rules — C tix gets you access to all C lounges.
^

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With OWS/OWE or C/F ticket you can access C/F lounges that are designated as OW lounges. On the contrary, you won't be able to access contract lounges or non-OW lounges (e.g. many of the QR lounges) unless you fly on the specific airline and hold the proper status/boarding pass.

I highly recommend using the OW lounge finder in English. I'm not sure about the other languages available, but the German version is definitely ambiguous.

Here's the example of the text below the airline logos for the Cathay Pacific lounge at LHR T3

Originally Posted by German
Nur Zugang für berechtigte Kunden, die mit einer dieser oneworld Mitgliedsfluggesellschaften reisen.

Translation:Access for eligible customer traveling on one of these oneworld airlines only
As there's only the CX logo, that text would suggest that only CX passenger with C/F ticket or OWS/OWE could access that lounge.

The French and English text is much clearer with regard to accessing lounges with the boarding pass of another OW airline.

Originally Posted by French
Offre réservée aux clients éligibles qui voyagent à bord d'une compagnie membres de oneworld.

Translation: Exclusive offer for eligible customer traveling with an oneworld airline
Originally Posted by English
Access for eligible customers traveling on any oneworld member airline.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by klausa
*A has the same rules — C tix gets you access to all C lounges.

Good to know, I wasn't aware that Star Alliance and One World had the same lounge access rules.^
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by lifeonthego_k
Good to know, I wasn't aware that Star Alliance and One World had the same lounge access rules.^
I doubt that they do overall. But as a general rule in international travel, a business class ticket gets you into the business class lounge of the carrier you are flying at the departure airport.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by WorldLux
^

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With OWS/OWE or C/F ticket you can access C/F lounges that are designated as OW lounges. On the contrary, you won't be able to access contract lounges or non-OW lounges (e.g. many of the QR lounges) unless you fly on the specific airline and hold the proper status/boarding pass.

I highly recommend using the OW lounge finder in English. I'm not sure about the other languages available, but the German version is definitely ambiguous.

Here's the example of the text below the airline logos for the Cathay Pacific lounge at LHR T3



As there's only the CX logo, that text would suggest that only CX passenger with C/F ticket or OWS/OWE could access that lounge.

The French and English text is much clearer with regard to accessing lounges with the boarding pass of another OW airline.
For the German part only the wrong article is used "dieser" instead of "der". Use of the plural from for "Mitgliedsfluggesellschaften" gives it away. But yes, I also recommend the use of the English version as it is much clearer.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by endet
For the German part only the wrong article is used "dieser" instead of "der". Use of the plural from for "Mitgliedsfluggesellschaften" gives it away. But yes, I also recommend the use of the English version as it is much clearer.
They should just have left away "dieser". "... die mit einer OW Fluggesellschaft fliegen..." would've been ideal. I've had this discussion with a German friend who didn't believe me when I told him he could go to any lounge.
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
There's a new video on the QR Instagram page.

Without checking for myself, am I the only one who thinks the seat looks rather narrow on the shoulders?

M
I think so too. If you look at the way the seatbacks are in a yingyang formation then they are effectively spaced at 8 across in the cabin (if that makes sense) for shoulder room.

I'm sure the Qsuite will generally feel spacious and it is a great use of the available space, but the actual seat itself is the slight compromise in my opinion.

Still can't wait to try it out for myself though
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Old Jun 21, 2017, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by purple1addict
I'm sure the Qsuite will generally feel spacious and it is a great use of the available space, but the actual seat itself is the slight compromise in my opinion.
But isn't that what it's all about? If the seat feels spacious but actually takes up less space, everyone wins, no?
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