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Old Mar 8, 2017, 3:40 am
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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seat

A video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg

Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html

From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.

They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.

The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.

All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.

Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247

Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.

As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!

I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!

What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.

38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%

77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BA​​​​​​C,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites

tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec

tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd

tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml

tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann












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Old Mar 9, 2017, 3:31 am
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Looks like there's really no space for the legs where Big Boss is sitting,
so he's just pretending it's comfortable



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Old Mar 9, 2017, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by Mapman

Full page advertisement for the new Q Suite in this morning's FT (the UK edition, at least). Shows four business people (all men, the day after IWD) in the four-seater centre arrangement.

Looks as though QR are going to push this new cabin hard, even months before it appears in service.
If I encounter any four men/women business meetings on board one of my future flights they'd better keep the noise down - otherwise they'll get an earful from me.
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by Pochama
Anyone else who bought the "Sake Fare" hoping the QSuite shows up on AMS-DOH sooner rather than later?
Well, I'm just hoping for plane diversity instead of the QSuite. Like replacing the 777-200LR for an A350 in the NRT-DOH leg. With or without QSuite
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 4:50 am
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CrazyBird further to my earlier reply (Post 205) there appears to be a change in plans. According to http://www.qatarairways.com/english_...seatreveal_eng "The new QSuite concept will be retrofitted on to the existing Qatar Airways fleet starting from June 2017, at an estimated rate of one aircraft a month."

This mens that there will go FIVE years before all the current A350, A380 and B777 aircraft are equipped with QSuites. Then it will be time to start thinking about the B787s, and possibly the A330s!
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 5:20 am
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Originally Posted by Morgo
Isn't it funny in that advert that the guys who have hooked up the computer and iPad are essentially presenting to themselves?! You'd have thought they've have hooked them up to the screens on the opposite side! Unless the screens are able to mirror to the neighbouring suites?
I was wondering the same thing. If you are somehow able to "project" your screen onto another seat, that would be pretty cool.

But in parallel, it would also suck to have to listen to a sales pitch when trying to relax on a flight.

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Old Mar 9, 2017, 5:23 am
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Originally Posted by Phil the Flyer
If I encounter any four men/women business meetings on board one of my future flights they'd better keep the noise down - otherwise they'll get an earful from me.
The horror of it really. Imagine having wifi and having to travel with colleagues with some nutter thinking this is great working time. I always select seats at different aisle when possible when travelling with colleagues.

Is the fixed table in the middle the only tray table? If so, seems uncomfortable.
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 6:45 am
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I wonder what QR would say to two guys in a relationship booking these "love seats" in the middle to take advantage of the created double bed?
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
I wonder what QR would say to two guys in a relationship booking these "love seats" in the middle to take advantage of the created double bed?
Will see at its already planned....
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by Mict
I think it's more likely to see it on the DOH-NRT/HND sector first.
according to HFP this morning its LHR

"The first plane to receive the new seat, a 777, will be flying between Heathrow and Doha. The start date was announced as June but Qatar has a track record of running late so don’t make any speculative bookings (Al Baker was blaming the delays on Airbus at the press conference…). Paris and New York will follow and if everything goes according to plan all A350 and 777 will have the Qsuite by mid to end of 2018."

credit goes to HFP for the above and hope it does break any rules...
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by Beano HK
according to HFP this morning its LHR

"The first plane to receive the new seat, a 777, will be flying between Heathrow and Doha. The start date was announced as June but Qatar has a track record of running late so don’t make any speculative bookings (Al Baker was blaming the delays on Airbus at the press conference…). Paris and New York will follow and if everything goes according to plan all A350 and 777 will have the Qsuite by mid to end of 2018."

credit goes to HFP for the above and hope it does break any rules...
The info was within the Press Briefing yesterday, and appears further upthread, so no worries about the HfP quote - I'm sure raffles won't mind!

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Old Mar 9, 2017, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by remdk
CrazyBird further to my earlier reply (Post 205) there appears to be a change in plans. According to http://www.qatarairways.com/english_...seatreveal_eng "The new QSuite concept will be retrofitted on to the existing Qatar Airways fleet starting from June 2017, at an estimated rate of one aircraft a month."

This mens that there will go FIVE years before all the current A350, A380 and B777 aircraft are equipped with QSuites. Then it will be time to start thinking about the B787s, and possibly the A330s!
AAB's statements at the press conference were different. First, he said that retrofitting will take place at two locations, -- the QR base at DOH and an unspecified contractor base in Europe. To me, that would indicate more than one/month. Also, he said that the entire retrofitting program would be complete within 2018. Perhaps there were additional developments after the script/press release were written.
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 8:08 am
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Just a number of points:

- Seat is not the Zodiac Fusio but rather a custom solution from B/E Aerospace.

- The seats do have arm rests on both sides that can be raised or lowered. They are in the lowered position in most press photos.

- The seats are narrower than the existing BE Super Diamond at its widest point (seat pan) but wider at other points.

- The "honeymoon" seats are only about 25% of the cabin, so loadactors in business have to be above 75% before you are forced to pick one of those seats assuming no other couples booked them (in which case the load factors have to be even higher). There are dividers if you end up stuck in those seats with a stranger.

- Roll-out might start at one per month (as per the QR press release) but at the media event it was mentioned that it will be 2-3 per month. I suspect it would be a standard case of learning curve and production ramp up of the seat limiting the rate of retrofits in the beginning but increasing later on.

- There are a number of service and amenity upgrades such as bedding and new catering options that will be rolled out.

- For sure there are compromises and trade-offs, for one the seats are narrower than the existing 777 business class seat. For the detractors, I would suggest to wait and try the seats as it seems the people that visited the stand had a better impression than those that saw the launch videos and press photos.

- Going from previous experience, I'm sure the seats will have small design mods with time to deal with issues that pop up in real life usage.
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 8:15 am
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Found a video with the armrests visible from minute 1:01:

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Old Mar 9, 2017, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
I noticed that in the original video, and couldn't work out what it was for.

I wondered whether it was WiFi related.

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How about this?

https://www.panasonic.aero/2016/04/0...aircraft-oems/

Panasonic expects its NFC technology also will be used by airlines for a wide range of non-payment applications including:

• More secure synchronization of personal data
• Recognition of a passenger’s Frequent Flyer status, giving access to benefits or promotions, such as free Wi-Fi for Gold members
• Crew check in and check out
• Pairing of NFC-enabled devices with the embedded IFEC system, allowing airlines to push information to passengers during their flight
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Old Mar 9, 2017, 1:15 pm
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The point about noise is a good one...particularly on quiet airframes such as the 350 and 380.
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