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Old Mar 8, 2017, 3:40 am
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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seat

A video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg

Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html

From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.

They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.

The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.

All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.

Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247

Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.

As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!

I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!

What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.

38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%

77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BA​​​​​​C,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites

tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec

tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd

tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml

tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann












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Old Mar 27, 2019, 4:18 pm
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Yes, absolutely mention the QSuites. There’s no way they’ll rebook you for free otherwise.
Good luck and please report back how it goes!
Btw, the first time I tried they told me they’d need availability in the same booking class to rebook me. That agent was misinformed. Just think about it, of course R space is long gone by the time you need to rebook. Rebooking into another booking class due to loss of QSuites should be no problem at all.
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Old Mar 28, 2019, 5:08 am
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depends on how fast the retrofit them, good luck looks like I be flying to Auckland non Qsuite :-)
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Old Mar 28, 2019, 8:34 pm
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Lost QSuites on DOH-SIN QR942 on 17 May - disappointed!
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
You don’t have to “think of a reason” - QR have done that themselves. ;-)

Their policy is as simple as it’s generous: You lose QSuites, you can rebook for free, no matter the booking class.
You can change both the date and the departure/arrival airport (within 500 miles).
For us this meant being able to change our I-class inbound flight from SIN-OSL to KUL-ARN one day later, where there only was D class availability. And we didn’t even get QSuites back that way, but we chose convenience over having to position back to SIN.
Had we booked that flight outright, it probably would have cost us several thousand dollars more.
But you can only rebook once, so make up your mind well.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact it was an award booking.
I did say all that (booking QSuites was the sole purpose of going on this trip, etc.) First they said they were going to look how much extra I would need to pay, then they simply said that there are no more award seats available on this flight and they can't help. I then tried twitter and got this:
Redemption seats are limited and capacity controlled hence, there are limitations on the number of seats available for redemption on any given flight. Certain days/periods may have no award seat availability; this is a global industry practice and is a function of flight forecast.
when I explained about the QSuites and importance of this again, and whether they can open up 2 seats for award availability to make a booking, they simply stopped replying. After 12 hours I reminded them on whether I will receive an answer and they replied
We understand and are sorry that the aircraft changed. We regret that we cannot make an exception for this.
When I asked on the phone whether they ever rebook anyone due to aircraft change and lost QSuites, they said they never do that and they wouldn't be able to anyway since the aircraft can be swapped even after the boarding and that happens all the time.
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 2:01 am
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To be honest, I find their policy very generous as it is.
It would really have surprised me if they had let you change an award booking. Opening up award availability isn’t something customer service can do, so it would have to go through revenue management. No way they’d do that for a simple award booking (where they probably didn’t make a lot of money anyway).
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
To be honest, I find their policy very generous as it is.
It would really have surprised me if they had let you change an award booking. Opening up award availability isn’t something customer service can do, so it would have to go through revenue management. No way they’d do that for a simple award booking (where they probably didn’t make a lot of money anyway).
Indeed it is very generous, if the "rule" is applied.
I got a change from Qsuite to non Qsuite for a flight in June 2019 and tried to get rebooked. The answer I got was "there was no equipment change"....so it means keep screenshots of the seatmap at booking time guys!
Two other equipment changes, happening within one week (!!), I could not even ask to change, as they were last minute changes, after OLCI. Got the information at the airport... :-(
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
To be honest, I find their policy very generous as it is.
It would really have surprised me if they had let you change an award booking. Opening up award availability isn’t something customer service can do, so it would have to go through revenue management. No way they’d do that for a simple award booking (where they probably didn’t make a lot of money anyway).
the question I have is the fact that so much flights qr switches, do you think they advertise qsuites to get people to book were in reality they don't nearly have that many planes with qsuites in the first place
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by Ijones027
the question I have is the fact that so much flights qr switches, do you think they advertise qsuites to get people to book were in reality they don't nearly have that many planes with qsuites in the first place
No, I don't think that they do it intentionally. You think that this is a lot? Try flying CX in either direction between BKK and HKG. The difference here is that everyone wants to fly in QSuites, so people are much more conscious of equipment swaps here.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 7:25 pm
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A7-BEI (77W 42J) is now with QSuite

The last two 77L with the old-J are still flying.
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Old Mar 31, 2019, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
No, I don't think that they do it intentionally. You think that this is a lot? Try flying CX in either direction between BKK and HKG. The difference here is that everyone wants to fly in QSuites, so people are much more conscious of equipment swaps here.
Yes, sure I do want to fly on Qsuite on a, by QR, heavy advertised Qsuite route and then it is annoying if you got changed to non Qsuite 2 times within 1 week (!) - on a designated Qsuite route, or not?
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Old Apr 2, 2019, 3:13 am
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Exclamation Pics of bassinet layout at seat 8B on QR's A350-900 QSuite

As I haven't found any pics of the bassinet layout in the QSuite, I took some photos of the bassinet installed at seat 8B on a recent flight with my little girl on the Oneworld-painted A350-900 A7-ALZ.
At first, it seemed that the crew had never installed a bassinet in the QSuite before, as they were unsure about the right seat with a bassinet position but quickly recognised by the hidden mountings that 8B was the right seat. The bassinet needs a special frame to be installed. The frame itself is quite massive and clamp-shaped. It took two crew members incl. the purser, a flashlight and some strength to install the frame in the suite but it worked out very well. My baby girl slept safe and sound in her flat bed. Overall, I think the bassinet location is quite good: easy access for the parent, visually and accoustically well separated from other passengers and still plenty of room for the parent to enjoy the QSuite. But one word of warning which applies to this bassinet type used by QR and other airlines like LH or SQ: If your baby is very active and can get up during the flight, it may sit up as the closed zipper latch of the bassinet may not stop that which may result in a potential risk of the baby falling down in a worst case scenario. So while your baby may sleep well, your own sleep may not be as relaxed as you may wish for

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Old Apr 2, 2019, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by ngfan
..... But one word of warning which applies to this bassinet type used by QR and other airlines like LH or SQ: If your baby is very active and can get up during the flight, it may sit up as the closed zipper latch of the bassinet may not stop that ehich may result in a potential risk of the baby falling down in a worst case scenario. So while your baby may sleep well, your own sleep may not be as relaxed as you may wish for
Our sweetheart was such an active one, she did sit up, so we did decide to take her on the "normal seat bed", were she slept 2/3 of the flight :-)
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Old Apr 2, 2019, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
Yes, absolutely mention the QSuites. There’s no way they’ll rebook you for free otherwise.
Good luck and please report back how it goes!
Btw, the first time I tried they told me they’d need availability in the same booking class to rebook me. That agent was misinformed. Just think about it, of course R space is long gone by the time you need to rebook. Rebooking into another booking class due to loss of QSuites should be no problem at all.
Hmm so I tried your advice about mentioning the loss of qsuites at the US customer service rep and they kept on stating they couldn’t waive the change fee. I tried again and they said now they could waive the change fee but I would have to pay a fare difference (which was like $6k lol) and even got the supervisor on who couldn’t help. I still haven’t tried the au office since it’s hard to catch them open being based in NYC. But hopefully I’ll have some time to try them!
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Old Apr 2, 2019, 10:29 am
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Sorry to hear that. I've called their US office once and also felt they weren't very helpful or even friendly.
You could also try calling their Qatar office directly (or other countries, maybe UK?).

The Australian office consistenly gave me the same answer, different agents (the first time I just checked my options, the second time I actually made the change).
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Old Apr 2, 2019, 11:03 am
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Did the Australian office make your changes without charging the service charge (presumably they would as they would process it as an involuntary change)?
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