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The Ramadan Master Thread - 5 May to 4 June 2019

The Ramadan Master Thread - 5 May to 4 June 2019

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What is Ramadan?
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim calendar where Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset.
Ramadan is a holy month to Muslims and also a joyous and spiritual time. I am concentrating upon that which most affects Non-Muslim QR passengers during Ramadan.

When is Ramadan?
Because the Muslim´calendar is a lunar calendar the date in the Gregorian, or solar, calendar changes every year. Each year it is about 11 days earlier than the previous year.
Ramadan 2017 was 27 May to 25 June.
Ramadan 2018 is 16 May to 14 June.
Ramadan 2019 is 6 May to 4 June.
Ramadan 2020 is 24 April to 23 May.

When does Ramadan actually start?
The Muslim day starts at sunset and continues to sunset. Sightings for the new moon are taken at sunset and when sighted the month of Ramadan has started. Fasting begins later in the Muslim day at sunrise. Thus if Ramadan starts on June 6th then it is the sighting of the new moon at sunset on June 5th that marks the official start. Tha actual start date may be different due to the fact that we live on a globe and it takes 24 hours to rotate on its axis! The dates quoted are for Qatar.

Are there exceptions to the rules?
There are exceptions to fasting rules such as the aged, sick, pregnant women, travellers, etc.
Some branches of Islam demand payment of a fine or a penance, such as feeding the poor, for breaking the fast whilst other branches do not. In some branches of Islam travellers may voluntarily choose to continue fasting whilst other branches forbid fasting whilst travelling.

When does Fasting take place?
Most agree that the times of fasting are from Sunrise to Sunset. Others use Dawn and Dusk. The latter could cause serious health problems for those who live at latitude 48.5 or greater. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight for an explanation.

How does Ramadan affect QR?
QR adheres to the rules of Ramadan as required by the State of Qatar.
Food is always available inside the airport and on all flights. This is because of the traveller rules.
Non alcoholic drinks are always available both in the airport and on all flights.
Alcohol is NOT available at Hamad International Airport either inside or outside the airport buildings, even at the Airport hotel. Nor is it available on most flights to muslim countries (even as far as TUN and ALG). On all other flights from DOH alcohol is available after departure. The cabin crew decide when departure is. For some it is when you board the aircraft, for others closing the doors, others pushback and yet others after take-off. Where alcohol is permitted on the flight then it will be served by the glass, the bottle remaining in the galley. Pre departure alcoholic drinks will normally be served on flights to DOH where alcohol is permitted. There may be exceptions.
In every respect, other than alcohol, service is unchanged throughout QR.
Duty free alcohol is available at QDF. But there may be restrictions such as delivery to the aircraft door.

How does Ramadan affect The State of Qatar?
If you leave the airport during Ramadan please remember
1) the sale and public consumption of Alcohol is banned by law during Ramadan. In several, but not all, hotels alcohol may be obtained by residents from room service.
2) It is extremely offensive, and in some Muslim countries, including Qatar, a criminal offence, to be seen eating, drinking, smoking or chewing gum in public during the period of fasting.
According to https://discoverqatar.qatarairways.c...madan/overview
"If you need to drink or eat, please do so in the privacy of your own room or in a place where you won’t be seen."
If you need to eat or drink please do it discretely and out of sight of others.

Want to know more?
If you want more information then http://marhaba.qa/ramadan-dos-and-donts-in-qatar/ is specific to Qatar. If you are also interested in health issues then A_guide_to_healthy_fasting is worth looking at, not only for health issues.

This Wiki and thread is about how Ramadan affects QR passengers.

Thanks are due to IAN-UK, Lobengula, RUN4FUN, sharp5flat9, SullyofDoha, VH-RMD and others for help in making this as accurate as possible.

Updated 27/07/2017
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Old May 17, 18, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 View Post
Is alcohol served during pre-departure on the ground?
From what I have read it varies depending on the flight crew.
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Old May 17, 18, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 View Post
Is alcohol served during pre-departure on the ground?
If you are on a flight where alcohol is not served on board during Ramadan, it won't be served on the ground.
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Does anyone know what is the policy regarding duty free alcohol bought at a departure airport when transiting through HIA? Can’t find the answer to this question and don’t want to risk having it confiscated. Cheers!
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Does anyone know what is the policy regarding duty free alcohol bought at a departure airport when transiting through HIA? Can’t find the answer to this question and don’t want to risk having it confiscated. Cheers!
You can still purchase duty free alcohol at HIA during Ramadan, though the shop is obfuscated with black screens, so I don't expect you'll have any issues transiting with alcohol.
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Originally Posted by GK1981 View Post
You can still purchase duty free alcohol at HIA during Ramadan, though the shop is obfuscated with black screens, so I don't expect you'll have any issues transiting with alcohol.
Is this also the case in DXB also?
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Old May 18, 18, 11:20 am
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Hi guys,

Sorry for what may be a stupid question, but the AM lounge continues to serve food through Ramadan right?

Same for intra gulf flights, will food be served?

Thanks
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Old May 18, 18, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by Armodeen View Post
Hi guys,

Sorry for what may be a stupid question, but the AM lounge continues to serve food through Ramadan right?

Same for intra gulf flights, will food be served?

Thanks
Food is served per the "traveler" rules of Ramadan.
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Old May 19, 18, 10:22 am
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Pre-departure champagne was offered in Atlanta on the evening of Thursday May 17. I was pleasantly surprised, thinking maybe it was because Ramadan started in Doha on Thursday and when we boarded it was not yet sundown on Thursday.

Departing DOH on Saturday morning, I was very pleasantly surprised to be offered champagne during pre-departure drinks. I had gathered this was at the crew’s discretion at outstations, but this was an example of a crew offering it at Doha, definitely within the Holy Month. I won’t mention which flight, don’t want to make any problems. Maybe QR has relaxed the “not on the ground” rule even at Doha.

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Old May 19, 18, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by MegatopLover View Post
Pre-departure champagne was offered in Atlanta on the evening of Thursday May 17. I was pleasantly surprised, thinking maybe it was because Ramadan started in Doha on Thursday and when we boarded it was not yet sundown on Thursday.

Departing DOH on Saturday morning, I was very pleasantly surprised to be offered champagne during pre-departure drinks. I had gathered this was at the crew’s discretion at outstations, but this was an example of a crew offering it at Doha, definitely within the Holy Month. I won’t mention which flight, don’t want to make any problems. Maybe QR has relaxed the “not on the ground” rule even at Doha.
There was never a problem "on the ground" departing DOH, alcohol has always been available for non GCC routes during Ramadan.
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Old May 19, 18, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by GK1981 View Post
You can still purchase duty free alcohol at HIA during Ramadan, though the shop is obfuscated with black screens, so I don't expect you'll have any issues transiting with alcohol.
I'm here now; and at Duty Free Shop, there is the black curtained partition, behind which the glass and metal folding doors to the alcohol area of duty free are locked closed.
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Originally Posted by MegatopLover View Post
Pre-departure champagne was offered in Atlanta on the evening of Thursday May 17. I was pleasantly surprised, thinking maybe it was because Ramadan started in Doha on Thursday and when we boarded it was not yet sundown on Thursday.

Departing DOH on Saturday morning, I was very pleasantly surprised to be offered champagne during pre-departure drinks. I had gathered this was at the crew’s discretion at outstations, but this was an example of a crew offering it at Doha, definitely within the Holy Month. I won’t mention which flight, don’t want to make any problems. Maybe QR has relaxed the “not on the ground” rule even at Doha.
Same here - was offered pre-departure drinks leaving for Doha from the US on Friday, and leaving Doha on Saturday. Booze still on all of the menus that I was offered.

Only hangup was the plane running out of Jack Daniels during the flight .. oops.

Forgot how much I love the A350 flight -- and last time it was coach, this time in business, just an all around great experience.
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Old May 20, 18, 1:18 pm
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I'm here now; and at Duty Free Shop, there is the black curtained partition, behind which the glass and metal folding doors to the alcohol area of duty free are locked closed.
Last year duty free alcohol was available behind the partition, I guess something has changed this year...
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Old May 24, 18, 3:04 pm
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I should have no problem getting a Virgin Mary in Al Mourjan, right?
No problem. I had a Virgin mojito during Ramadan last year, but the bar tender seemed to been asked by his colleagues what he was doing until he confirmed them it was a mocktail ;-)
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And I was in Al Mourjan this past weekend and had a Virgin Mary. Pretty good, actually!
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