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#1021
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: LHR
Programs: QR Platinum, WY Gold, Shangri-la Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,120
#1022
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LON
Programs: BAEC, Accor
Posts: 1,985
Personally I have no interest in football, and very much less in football 'celebrities', so I am very much less inclined to watch this at the appropriate time than I would be a normal safety video.
#1024
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: QR Platinum, Star Alliance Gold (LH Sen)
Posts: 539
Come on guys, its not that bad. It´s just an approach to gain attention for safety in a "funny" way (i did laugh about ;-) ) - and as I can read here, that did work ;-)
#1025
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
Programs: QR Privilege Club
Posts: 7
Hi everyone, this obviously will not come as a surprise for any of you but I'd like to share my experience with this ...... company.
I haven't even flown with them yet and they're already giving me a hard time. And all I've been trying to get is some straightforward answers to simple questions relating to the Excess Value Declaration for Checked Baggage, sort of a increase in the liability limit in case anything happens with my baggage. I'm only 4 days away from my trip and they're still giving me the run-around.
Firstly, I'd like to point out how terribly unprepared their customer service staff is. I tried getting answers calling the number +61 291654313 (linked to Australia, where I'm departing from) and not surprisingly, the call was directed to a call centre in India. After spending almost an hour on the phone, the agent was not able to help me with my enquiry because she didn't know anything about the subject nor even after checking with her superior/manager.
The incompetence of their customer service department is not limited to the call centre in India, but also to the Canadian office. I had my sister who lives in Canada phone their office in the Montreal airport and they also don't know anything about the checked baggage special declaration of value, even when it was pointed out that it is clearly addressed under item 9.7.1 of the air ticket contract.
At the same time, I've tried getting the answers I need emailing [email protected] also to no avail. All I got was the same generic, copy+paste reply that ends with "We have forwarded your email to our local reservation office and our staff will check and contact with you. We regret all inconvenience and we look forward to welcoming you on board our flights in the near future."
It's been a week since I first emailed them and their local reservation office and staff has not contacted me at all!
I even managed to find QRs' Whatsapp number (same as Doha's Main Office number) and they still refuse to answer my simple questions!
QR is obviously stalling to give the answers because it's of no interest of theirs!
And here's the exact message I communicated with them through all the channels mentioned above:
"In your Conditions of Carriage (www. qatarairways. com/content/dam/documents/legal/conditions-of-carriage. pdf), under Article 9 (Baggage), item 7.1, it is stated that I may declare a value for Checked Baggage in excess of the applicable liability limits and that I will pay for such declaration.
1- I looked all over Qatar airway's website and there is no special form for Excess Value Declaration for Checked Baggage. So how can I file it? Can it be done online or only at the airport?
2- Does the fee for this declaration depend on total value declared on the special declaration form or is it a fixed fee? Can it be paid with debit card?
3- Please send me this special declaration form to [email protected] so I can already start filling it."
I've managed to find 2 other airlines' form for this just to have an idea of what info exactly I should put in it, but obviously it needs to be filed with QR using their own form.
Does anyone here knows what I'm talking about and can help me? Preferably send me the form itself.
Also, I'd appreciate any legal advice relating to what I can do regarding their refusal to respond to my request for more information if anything happens to my checked baggage, if it comes to that.
Thanks in advance,
Gabriel.
I haven't even flown with them yet and they're already giving me a hard time. And all I've been trying to get is some straightforward answers to simple questions relating to the Excess Value Declaration for Checked Baggage, sort of a increase in the liability limit in case anything happens with my baggage. I'm only 4 days away from my trip and they're still giving me the run-around.
Firstly, I'd like to point out how terribly unprepared their customer service staff is. I tried getting answers calling the number +61 291654313 (linked to Australia, where I'm departing from) and not surprisingly, the call was directed to a call centre in India. After spending almost an hour on the phone, the agent was not able to help me with my enquiry because she didn't know anything about the subject nor even after checking with her superior/manager.
The incompetence of their customer service department is not limited to the call centre in India, but also to the Canadian office. I had my sister who lives in Canada phone their office in the Montreal airport and they also don't know anything about the checked baggage special declaration of value, even when it was pointed out that it is clearly addressed under item 9.7.1 of the air ticket contract.
At the same time, I've tried getting the answers I need emailing [email protected] also to no avail. All I got was the same generic, copy+paste reply that ends with "We have forwarded your email to our local reservation office and our staff will check and contact with you. We regret all inconvenience and we look forward to welcoming you on board our flights in the near future."
It's been a week since I first emailed them and their local reservation office and staff has not contacted me at all!
I even managed to find QRs' Whatsapp number (same as Doha's Main Office number) and they still refuse to answer my simple questions!
QR is obviously stalling to give the answers because it's of no interest of theirs!
And here's the exact message I communicated with them through all the channels mentioned above:
"In your Conditions of Carriage (www. qatarairways. com/content/dam/documents/legal/conditions-of-carriage. pdf), under Article 9 (Baggage), item 7.1, it is stated that I may declare a value for Checked Baggage in excess of the applicable liability limits and that I will pay for such declaration.
1- I looked all over Qatar airway's website and there is no special form for Excess Value Declaration for Checked Baggage. So how can I file it? Can it be done online or only at the airport?
2- Does the fee for this declaration depend on total value declared on the special declaration form or is it a fixed fee? Can it be paid with debit card?
3- Please send me this special declaration form to [email protected] so I can already start filling it."
I've managed to find 2 other airlines' form for this just to have an idea of what info exactly I should put in it, but obviously it needs to be filed with QR using their own form.
Does anyone here knows what I'm talking about and can help me? Preferably send me the form itself.
Also, I'd appreciate any legal advice relating to what I can do regarding their refusal to respond to my request for more information if anything happens to my checked baggage, if it comes to that.
Thanks in advance,
Gabriel.
#1026

Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK M&S Elite Plus, QRPC Platinum, BAEC Silver, PC Bolbol, All Silv, HH Blue, Bonvoy, BW Rewards
Posts: 7,343
1. No more butter and cheese in the food in Economy.
2. Business Class lounge in HIA (Doha) is always full from 12mn-3am. They don't open other lounges until the BC lounge is jam packed with passengers. Many people are walking around to look for vacant seats. It's like a market inside. Very poor customer service.
Time to switch to other FF program.
Time to switch to other FF program.
Number 1 is partially incorrect. Cheese is not available and anymore, however, butter is available upon request on QR Y.
#1027
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LON
Programs: BAEC, Accor
Posts: 1,985
Does anyone here knows what I'm talking about and can help me? Preferably send me the form itself.
Also, I'd appreciate any legal advice relating to what I can do regarding their refusal to respond to my request for more information if anything happens to my checked baggage, if it comes to that.
Thanks in advance,
Gabriel.
Also, I'd appreciate any legal advice relating to what I can do regarding their refusal to respond to my request for more information if anything happens to my checked baggage, if it comes to that.
Thanks in advance,
Gabriel.
1. If you are able to get to the airport and can get into the terminal as far as the check in counters at a time when there is a QR flight departing before you depart then you could go and enquire what the process is for this with a check in agent. If they don't have a clue ask them to get the QR station manager down to check in to speak to you.
2. If you can't get to the airport, try to call the airport switchboard and ask to speak to the QR Station Manager about 1 hour before an inbound plane is due to arrive (they should be onsite but possibly not super busy at that point). If there are no other QR flights before your flight leaves at your airport, any other national airport would probably work just as well.
3. If the above fails or doesn't work, draft your own declaration form based on what other airlines are asking for, and at the top refer to the QR condition of carriage and that you are making a declaration. If the check in agent really don't have a clue, you can at least serve notice in a relatively easy way at check in. You will probably need to do this with the supervisor or station manager.
I sympathize with you that it shouldn't be complicated like this
Last edited by plunet; Nov 27, 20 at 12:29 pm
#1028
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: FB AF Silver, BA Gold
Posts: 12,908
I never heard anyone using an excess valuation form on QR (or any other airlines).
All that QR mentions in conditions of carriage:
7.1 If in accordance with our regulations at some locations we offer an excess valuation facility, you may declare a value for Checked Baggage in excess of the applicable liability limits. If you make such a declaration you will pay any applicable charges.
I would assume Canada is not one of those locations. I would also assume that this is just a boiler plate and that there is no QR location where it applies (maybe USA).
Airlines apply the usual Montreal convention. Some countries have a specific law regarding maximum amount covered. The US has a maximum of $3,400, and US airlines routinely sell extra cover, but that is rare elsewhere (I don't know about Canada).
I strongly suggest that you forget about getting it from QR and get some additional insurance cover from a third party (maybe your credit card). Otherwise do what plunet suggested.
All that QR mentions in conditions of carriage:
7.1 If in accordance with our regulations at some locations we offer an excess valuation facility, you may declare a value for Checked Baggage in excess of the applicable liability limits. If you make such a declaration you will pay any applicable charges.
I would assume Canada is not one of those locations. I would also assume that this is just a boiler plate and that there is no QR location where it applies (maybe USA).
Airlines apply the usual Montreal convention. Some countries have a specific law regarding maximum amount covered. The US has a maximum of $3,400, and US airlines routinely sell extra cover, but that is rare elsewhere (I don't know about Canada).
I strongly suggest that you forget about getting it from QR and get some additional insurance cover from a third party (maybe your credit card). Otherwise do what plunet suggested.
#1029
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,008
#1030
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
Programs: QR Privilege Club
Posts: 7
I have never needed to do this, and don't know the procedure, but if I were in your position and wanted to be as prepared as possible with the lack of progress on where your query is going...
1. If you are able to get to the airport and can get into the terminal as far as the check in counters at a time when there is a QR flight departing before you depart then you could go and enquire what the process is for this with a check in agent. If they don't have a clue ask them to get the QR station manager down to check in to speak to you.
2. If you can't get to the airport, try to call the airport switchboard and ask to speak to the QR Station Manager about 1 hour before an inbound plane is due to arrive (they should be onsite but possibly not super busy at that point). If there are no other QR flights before your flight leaves at your airport, any other national airport would probably work just as well.
3. If the above fails or doesn't work, draft your own declaration form based on what other airlines are asking for, and at the top refer to the QR condition of carriage and that you are making a declaration. If the check in agent really don't have a clue, you can at least serve notice in a relatively easy way at check in. You will probably need to do this with the supervisor or station manager.
I sympathize with you that it shouldn't be complicated like this
1. If you are able to get to the airport and can get into the terminal as far as the check in counters at a time when there is a QR flight departing before you depart then you could go and enquire what the process is for this with a check in agent. If they don't have a clue ask them to get the QR station manager down to check in to speak to you.
2. If you can't get to the airport, try to call the airport switchboard and ask to speak to the QR Station Manager about 1 hour before an inbound plane is due to arrive (they should be onsite but possibly not super busy at that point). If there are no other QR flights before your flight leaves at your airport, any other national airport would probably work just as well.
3. If the above fails or doesn't work, draft your own declaration form based on what other airlines are asking for, and at the top refer to the QR condition of carriage and that you are making a declaration. If the check in agent really don't have a clue, you can at least serve notice in a relatively easy way at check in. You will probably need to do this with the supervisor or station manager.
I sympathize with you that it shouldn't be complicated like this
I never heard anyone using an excess valuation form on QR (or any other airlines).
All that QR mentions in conditions of carriage:
7.1 If in accordance with our regulations at some locations we offer an excess valuation facility, you may declare a value for Checked Baggage in excess of the applicable liability limits. If you make such a declaration you will pay any applicable charges.
I would assume Canada is not one of those locations. I would also assume that this is just a boiler plate and that there is no QR location where it applies (maybe USA).
Airlines apply the usual Montreal convention. Some countries have a specific law regarding maximum amount covered. The US has a maximum of $3,400, and US airlines routinely sell extra cover, but that is rare elsewhere (I don't know about Canada).
All that QR mentions in conditions of carriage:
7.1 If in accordance with our regulations at some locations we offer an excess valuation facility, you may declare a value for Checked Baggage in excess of the applicable liability limits. If you make such a declaration you will pay any applicable charges.
I would assume Canada is not one of those locations. I would also assume that this is just a boiler plate and that there is no QR location where it applies (maybe USA).
Airlines apply the usual Montreal convention. Some countries have a specific law regarding maximum amount covered. The US has a maximum of $3,400, and US airlines routinely sell extra cover, but that is rare elsewhere (I don't know about Canada).
"Montreal Convention and lost baggage
You are liable for compensation if the carrier admits your luggage has been lost. Note that if your checked bags have not arrived within 21 days, they are officially considered lost.
Airlines are required to compensate you both for the cost of your suitcase and its contents.
In case of damage caused by delay, destruction or loss of baggage, airlines have to pay up to 1,131 SDRs [now 1288 SDRs] per passenger (about EUR 1,400).
If you are carrying any expensive items, you can file a special declaration. You will have to pay a supplementary sum for it. If your luggage gets lost in this case, the carrier is liable for a sum not exceeding the amount declared in your form."
Source: https://skyrefund.com/en/blog/montre...tional-flights
#1031
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LON
Programs: BAEC, Accor
Posts: 1,985
Good luck and if you get time, let us know how you get on.