Meaning of "marketed and operated"

Old Jan 2, 16, 5:33 pm
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Meaning of "marketed and operated"

This probably applied to all FF programs, but I'm a QR flyer.

I have seen flights on comparison sites which are slightly lower than on the QR website.

If I was to book via the agent/booking site and not direct from QR would it affect allocation of Qpoints or other miles?

The T&Cs say flights "marketed and operated by Qatar Airways" but nothing about who they are sold by.
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Old Jan 2, 16, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by eastflyer123 View Post
This probably applied to all FF programs, but I'm a QR flyer.

I have seen flights on comparison sites which are slightly lower than on the QR website.

If I was to book via the agent/booking site and not direct from QR would it affect allocation of Qpoints or other miles?

The T&Cs say flights "marketed and operated by Qatar Airways" but nothing about who they are sold by.
I usually book all flights with QR on third party sites because the prices are little bit cheaper then on the QR site. Sometimes it happen you have not the possibility to indicate your QR frequent flyer no. When the booking is completed and i receive the QR booking no. i check the data on qatar site, enter my ff no. if necessary and choose a seat.
This worked always for me.
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Old Jan 3, 16, 12:14 am
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>> If I was to book via the agent/booking site and not direct from QR would it affect allocation of Qpoints or other miles?
No, assuming you are comparing identical flights, booking classes and fares.

I have seen special promos where direct booking was required, but not in the general case.
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Old Jan 3, 16, 5:28 am
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Marketed = airline whose flight number is on your ticket. It has nothing to do with the website or travel agency where you bought your ticket
Operated = airline who operate the flight

For example :
Flight QR702 from JFK to DOH is also marketed under American airline flight number AA7972, so :
QR702 is marketed AND operated by QR
AA7972 is marketed by AA and operated by QR
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Old Jan 3, 16, 7:07 am
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Guys, when you say cheaper, you mean including the 'booking fees' or 'credit card fees'? Because I've never seen anything cheaper than QR's site once you factor in the ways many of these booking sites make money
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Old Jan 4, 16, 9:28 am
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Matt4 thanks for your description of Marketing and Operating airlines. However this is only half the story. It is the consequences of these definitions that can cause problems.

These definitions were created by IATA to provide 'simple understandable rules for code share flights'.

It does however lead to some interesting anomalies.

Take baggage allowance for example.
Taking the soon to finish codeshare DOH-HKG CX640/QR5801 Your baggage allowance varies according to the marketing carrier.

On CX the standard Y baggage allowance is 20 kgs.
On QR the standard Y baggage allowance is 30 kgs,
If your ticket says CX640 then it is 20 kgs. But if is says QR5801 or 'CX640 sold as QR5801' then it is 30 kgs.

For flights from Europe, The Middle East or Africa the rules are identical since they are all in IATA tariff area 2 whilst HKG is in IATA tariff area 3.

Thus for QR068 FRA-DOH-HKG as well as codeshare AA7968 FRA-DOH-HKG it is the DOH-HKG flight that determines your baggage allowance for the entire journey.

More complicated is
JFK-DOH-HKG
If your flight is QR702 then QRs baggage rules apply throughout your journey. If it is AA7972 then AAs baggage rules apply throughout your journey. The rules for DOH-HKG are ignored.
This is because JFK is in IATA tariff area 1.

It is the change of IATA tariff zone that determines the MSC (Most significant Carrier). For codeshare Carrier means Marketing airline.
These rules can be seen at http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...ier-rules.html and on the IATA website.

Some 18+ months ago I think I saw the comment on the IATA website to the effect that 'With certain exceptions the terms and conditions of the MSC are valid for the entire journey' Am I remembering correctly or incorrectly? If you know definitely one way or the other please let me know.
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Old Jan 4, 16, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by mpkz View Post
Guys, when you say cheaper, you mean including the 'booking fees' or 'credit card fees'? Because I've never seen anything cheaper than QR's site once you factor in the ways many of these booking sites make money
I use the search engine

https://www.checkfelix.com/flights

There was usually always one offer that was cheaper then QR (inclusive all). But you should have different credit cards because some providers charge for visa payments but not for master card payments and vice versa and you should be sometimes little bit flexible regarding the departure times because the cheaper flights have different flight times than the cheapest QR offer but still on same day.

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Old Jan 4, 16, 11:08 am
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I have compared the cheapest offer from QR and from Checkfelix for a flight

from FRA-BKK
09.1. - 16.1.
in economy

The price from Qatar is 820,14 EUR and the cheapest offer from checkfelix is 720 EUR inclusive credit card charge and no other charges.

The only difference is the departure time from FRA and the plane (A330 instead of A350 at the QR offer)
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