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Hamad International Airport (HIA) offers passengers a number of different lounges.

This thread, is specifically for the Al Safwa First Class Lounge. Information on the other Lounge options at HIA, can be found here.

Does Al Safwa have a web page?
Yes: http://www.qatarairways.com/global/e...-al-safwa.page

Dining Menu
https://www.qatarairways.com/content...-dining-en.pdf

Where can I find Al Safwa Lounge?
The Lounge is located on Level 3 of the airport.

Can I use the Qatar Airways Al Safwa Lounge?

Access is based on your underlying fare bucket. This means that upgraded tickets, maybe except upgrades with QPoints (see post 2735), are not granted access.

Access is thus restricted to Qatar Airways First Class, and OneWorld First Class passengers :
- either holding a First Class boarding pass* for their next flight
- or holding a First Class boarding pass from their previous flight.

Additionally, Privilege Club platinum club travelling on any business-class fare are welcomed into the lounge. This is a facility introduced recently and one that could just as easily disappear.

- Guests are not permitted.
* Operational Upgrades to First do not give access. Upgrades with Qpoints may do give acces (see post 2735 - Sept 2022)

Arrival access on mid and long haul? (eg. coming from LHR in F)

YES

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Ex. CAI-DOH-HEL
Arrival access regional F? (eg. coming from CAI in F)

Yes.
Caveat, if your underlying J fare is P, then the no lounge access for business light kicks in. And there is no access.

Privilege Club Platinum members are currently allowed in the lounge when travelling on any QR business-class fare: that could change. Other Oneworld Emerald members are directed to the Platinum lounge(s) when travelling in any class, and the Al Mourjan lounge when travelling on relevant business-class fares. Yup, it gets complicated.

What does the lounge look like?
Reports on the Lounge, can be found here and here. Photographs of the lounge, can be found here.

Is there a Spa?
Yes, there is a full Spa, but you will have to pay for treatments. A full list of treatments available can be found here

What about the sleeping rooms?
Stargold in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28199729-post1177.html suggests that access to sleeping rooms is as follows:
'* No reservations allowed - always first-come first-served
* Only available if the remaining time until the flight departure is more than 4 hours
* Passengers are allowed maximum six hours' usage - for any further usage, a fee of QAR 450 is payable for a second block of six hours.
* No F&B of any kind except bottled water in the sleeping rooms.'


What changes can I expect during Ramadan?
Ramadan affects QR and you in many ways so please look at ramadan to see how you are affected.

Updated: 19/11/2023


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Old Sep 24, 2018, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
QR do not operate F on all flights, and the majority of reports have shown BA F pax being put into QR J (and receiving a refund of either cash or Avios).

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Interesting - i'd probably prefer a refund of avios and the chance to fly in QR J over BA F!
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 6:30 am
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Does anyone have a list of the short haul destinations that have a F class (not true F cabin) that will allow access to AS?

MCT, AMM, BEY, any others?
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 6:43 am
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Is it all their Middle East destinations? If so, it would be this:

https://www.qatarairways.com/en-fi/d...ddle-east.html
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Old Oct 1, 2018, 1:03 am
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Originally Posted by CX_newbie
Does anyone have a list of the short haul destinations that have a F class (not true F cabin) that will allow access to AS?

MCT, AMM, BEY, any others?
Apart from those three, there’s OHS, KWI and KRT (the longest F flight with business cabin).
Although Oman has two F routes (MCT and OHS), their route to SLL is in business class.
The rest of the flights in the Middle East are in business class
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Old Oct 2, 2018, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Crisu69
in the lounge
Marginally incorrect answer. I asked for showers on check in to AS, and was escorted to the Men's Spa and then into a large shower room with his/hers showers. Most excellent.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by lameizi
Marginally incorrect answer. I asked for showers on check in to AS, and was escorted to the Men's Spa and then into a large shower room with his/hers showers. Most excellent.
Actually, it's not. There is a shower for each gender in the main lounge in the family area bathrooms.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by lameizi
Marginally incorrect answer. I asked for showers on check in to AS, and was escorted to the Men's Spa and then into a large shower room with his/hers showers. Most excellent.
Was this what essentially is a locker room?
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 4:44 am
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My little falcon at QR, has told me that there are access changes coming on 1st January.

I will share these when I am permitted to do so.

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Old Oct 12, 2018, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
My little falcon at QR, has told me that there are access changes coming on 1st January.

I will share these when I am permitted to do so.

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OTOH, nothing wrong with a little groundless speculation, is there? After all, it's an FT tradition!

So.... If we assume that the QR gods have noticed that 1) AS is underutilized, and 2) AM is often quite crowded, it's probably a safe assumption that access to AS is going to increase in January, not become more restricted. I'll take a wild guess and suggest that access will now be granted to QR PLTs and possibly OW EMDs, or some variation on that theme, like also holding a boarding pass for a QR flight in a premium cabin.

N.B.: This is only my personal speculation. I have no information on this beyond what msm2000uk has written.

One downside if I'm even close is that getting one of the sleeping rooms is going to become even more challenging.
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 5:06 am
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Let the speculation begin. I would assume F to J layovers would be granted access before Elite members traveling in Y.
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 5:18 am
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I've no issue with speculative discussion etc, but those who've been around this Forum for a little, will know I won't reveal anything until I'm told I can.

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Old Oct 12, 2018, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
OTOH, nothing wrong with a little groundless speculation, is there? After all, it's an FT tradition!

So.... If we assume that the QR gods have noticed that 1) AS is underutilized, and 2) AM is often quite crowded, it's probably a safe assumption that access to AS is going to increase in January, not become more restricted. I'll take a wild guess and suggest that access will now be granted to QR PLTs and possibly OW EMDs, or some variation on that theme, like also holding a boarding pass for a QR flight in a premium cabin.

N.B.: This is only my personal speculation. I have no information on this beyond what msm2000uk has written.

One downside if I'm even close is that getting one of the sleeping rooms is going to become even more challenging.
QR Plats flying in J maybe. That would be a relatively manageable increase in numbers then allowed to use Al Safwa
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 6:21 am
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Ok so here's my shot. Given QR's history, the only reasonable thing to expect are further downgrades
The sadist in me wishes for one (or several) of these options:
  • No more access for F award tickets, or perhaps even anything below F booking class
  • No more access for incoming F and outgoing Y/J
  • Limiting access to real F flights (aka A380)
  • Additionally requiring some QRPC status
But if there's any sanity left at QR's management, they must have by now realized the grotesque underusage of that lounge (then again it was just as empty when they decided to removed access for upgraded tickets...).
What I don't think will happen is that they bring their access rule in line with the Oneworld policy where all OWE (plus one guest) get access to F lounges. This would basically mean that they could close down (or re-purpose) the so called F-lounge. Having that whole crowd moved to AS would likely be too much.
I hope it's going to be some mild easement, like
  • Access for QRPC Platinum (or even OWE) flying J
  • Access for flex J tickets (booking class C/J)
  • Revoking the removal of access rights for F award upgrades
The first option would make a lot of sense from my point of view, since at this point, frequent flyer status is almost completely useless when flying J with QR.
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Old Oct 30, 2018, 2:44 pm
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I went and had a chat with one of the Al Safwa managers this evening about the Op-Ups to F scenario.

He told me that staff have recently been re-trained to view the ticket bracket opposed to solely checking the boarding pass.

This was interesting, and I went and tried it myself.

I was, correctly, turned away, but the desk agent did call the Ticketing department for confirmation that he was doing the right thing. I didn't argue, but was actually impressed at the process (albeit ultimately slightly annoyed he wouldn't let me in!).

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Old Oct 30, 2018, 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by celtic_warrior
QR Plats flying in J maybe. That would be a relatively manageable increase in numbers then allowed to use Al Safwa
Yes, I think the number of additional people should be manageable.
I all the time ask in my flights how many Platinum members are on board - I never got an number higher than 4 till now (eco and business together). On my last flights last week from MUC to DOH there were 2 and from DOH to BKK 4 (again, eco and business together)...
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