The Myth of the 777 LFat Bed J Seat
Sep 10, 2015, 7:01 am
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The Myth of the 777 LFat Bed J Seat
So I've been doing a lot of flying on QR J over the past year, ex-US connecting in DOH to DEL or SIN. I like QR. A lot. I'm yet to have anything close to a bad flight.
That said, I must take issue with the notion that the J seats are flat beds. They are not. There is an angle. It is not pronounced, but you do feel it, especially in the leg area. For some reason, when the seat is in a sitting position (either upright or reclined), the legrest can come to the horizontal, but when in bed mode, it does not come up to the same level. The result is a very noticeable drop off.
Does anyone else notice this?
That said, I must take issue with the notion that the J seats are flat beds. They are not. There is an angle. It is not pronounced, but you do feel it, especially in the leg area. For some reason, when the seat is in a sitting position (either upright or reclined), the legrest can come to the horizontal, but when in bed mode, it does not come up to the same level. The result is a very noticeable drop off.
Does anyone else notice this?
Sep 10, 2015, 7:43 am
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Next time use the bed macro button, then when the seat is fully flat use the the leg rest button to further tweak the leg rest. I usually am able to get the leg rest up a little more that way.
The seat is slightly higher at the head than the leg as there is less cushioning in the leg rest than the seat pan. Even on EK F you can see this effect in a less pronounced way, the leg rest is lower than the seat pan. You can see the below image that it is fairly flat, but the leg rest's cushioning is lower. The image is rotated so it appears angled down but if you compare the seat with the window line you can see it is straight.
One negative thing I see with the seat is that the leg rest droops a little under the weight of my leg.
The seat is slightly higher at the head than the leg as there is less cushioning in the leg rest than the seat pan. Even on EK F you can see this effect in a less pronounced way, the leg rest is lower than the seat pan. You can see the below image that it is fairly flat, but the leg rest's cushioning is lower. The image is rotated so it appears angled down but if you compare the seat with the window line you can see it is straight.
One negative thing I see with the seat is that the leg rest droops a little under the weight of my leg.
Sep 10, 2015, 9:52 am
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One negative thing I see with the seat is that the leg rest droops a little under the weight of my leg.
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Sep 11, 2015, 1:31 pm
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When these seats were first introduced on other airiines, the slight angle was explained away by the fact that even when flying "flat", the plane maintains a very slight upwards angle, so the downward angle on the seat + the upward angle of the plane = flat lay seat.
Sep 12, 2015, 8:45 pm
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IIRC, the Oryx IFE has a sub-menu that provides a "cockpit display" and you can observe the relative angle of the plane, typically 1-3 degrees. But that may have been on the 787 or 388, not sure if it is available on the 77L/77W.