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Old Nov 5, 2015, 10:10 am
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QR to and from Bangkok

What to expect
A recent trip report for this journey, can be found here:

Photos of the Cabin
You will find photos galore of the J cabin on the A380 and 777 which are some of the aircrafts QR use on the DOH-BKK-DOH route.

You will find photos galore of the F cabin on the A380 here.

Aircraft Layouts
A380: 1-2-1 layout in F and J, 3-4-3 (Lower deck) and 2-4-2 (Upper deck, only accessible for OneWorld status passengers unless the lower deck is full) in Y
787: 1-2-1 layout in J and 3-3-3 in Y
777: 2-2-2 layout in J, 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 (QR834 DOH-BKK-HAN, QR835 HAN-BKK-DOH) in Y
A340-600: 2-2-2 layout in J and 2-4-2 in Y

Which Lounge should I use at BKK?
There are multiple lounges to use in Bangkok, and the best option for you will likely be determined by the time of your flight, and the location of your departure gate.

QR are in the process of opening their own lounge in Bangkok, but as of April 2016, we know very little other than it will be located on Concourse D. Until then, QR recommend J and F passengers use the lounges provided by Thai Airways. These lounges are scattered throughout the airport.

For F passengers, you will get an invitation to use the Thai Airways Royal First Lounge, which is located on Concourse E. It is a small area, but QR no longer have an Agreement to use the larger Thai Airways Royal First Lounge on Concourse D. The small area is roped off, and there is a small menu (no buffet), with a decent drinks selection.

For J passengers, and Y passengers with status (Silver and higher) you will receive an invitation to use the Thai Airways Royal Silk Lounge. These are located on Concourse C, Concourse D, and Concourse E. A map of the lounges can be found here.


OneWorld Emerald or Sapphire card holders or F or J passengers have also access to two lounges situated on or near the 3rd floor, Concourse G: the recently-opened (2015) Cathay Pacific Lounge (04:00 to between 18:30 and 01:00), and the Japan Airlines lounge (05:45-09:55, 18:00-00:40). While the CX and JL lounges are quite close together, they can be a distance from the QR gates - so keep an eye on the time!


Connecting from Thai (TG) domestic
Thai will through check-in your bags and facilitate you as a "CIQ" passenger through an airside transfer at BKK. They will do this even if you are travelling to BKK on a completely separate TG ticket, but you will need to show evidence of the QR flight (ticket number or online check-in receipt). This is based on leaving from Chiang Mai, but should work for other Thai airports.

The process is particularly useful in avoiding security queues landside to airside at BKK, and gets neatly around QR's restrictions on check-in opening times at the airport.

CIQ stands for Customs Immigration and Quarantine: nothing to do with Chiquimula airport in Guatamala


Will I be given pyjamas and an amenity kit? Reports vary, but have a look at this thread before flying to prepare your expectations -

What meals are served? This is dependent on the timing of your flight and class of travel, but 1 or 2 full meals are usually offered by QR. Menus can be found via the QR Dashboard. F menus and Y menus are here.

Will I be offered Fast-Track through Immigration?
- Departure from BKK : you will get a Fast-Track (Premium Lane) voucher if travelling in J or F, or travelling in Y with Silver, Gold or Platinum status.
- Arrival to BKK : if you are traveling in J or F, you will be provided with a Fast-Track voucher upon landing in Bangkok. Hold on to your boarding pass as you deplane, as the brown Fast Track vouchers are sometimes given out at the top of the gate rather than on the plane. If you are traveling in Y with Silver, Gold or Platinum status, you have to request the Fast-Track voucher at the QR agent at the gate.

What time does check-in open? Check in opens 3 hours before your departure time. QR police this quite strictly.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by flyvirgin
Like how? Can you please elaborate with prove?

No big fan of AoT, laothe them, such pain in the ... for us all.

Btw, AoT and TG are notorious for their dislikes and unwanted co-operation at airports for so long.
AoT run the airport as well as possible, but are hamstrung at times by other stakeholders.

Those who know AoT well, and know how the inner cirlces work, will understand why there are current delays.

For me to elaborate, would put those that provide me the information, in a difficult position - and I'm not going to risk that.

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Originally Posted by flyvirgin
Like how? Can you please elaborate with prove?

No big fan of AoT, laothe them, such pain in the ... for us all.

Btw, AoT and TG are notorious for their dislikes and unwanted co-operation at airports for so long.
Not really a big secret. Don't know about 'proof', but here are some facts.
  1. TG has its 'friends'/advocates in the gov't. AoT has its 'friends'/advocates in the gov't. Every dollar spent by AoT is a dollar TG does not get. (Source: Bangkok Post, reading budget details)
  2. BKK and DMK are both near 100% capacity. (It is a zoo getting out on a redeye!) (Source: Bangkok Post, aviation journals)
  3. The pissing contest is so bad between AoT and TG that TG could not get the approvals/money needed to build the lounge at HKT Intl terminal, despite it being delayed over a year. (Source: Bangkok Post, reading between the lines)
  4. There are multiple expansion projects going on at BKK. There are multiple airlines looking to build/expand lounges at BKK, including TG/QR/PG. (CX and JL took a long time to get their spaces.) (Source: Bangkok Post, reading between the lines)
  5. Space is at a premium at BKK.
  6. The old JL space is available, but may not be big enough. The old CX space is available (I believe) but is not big enough.
In terms of space, IMHO, the real issue is the number of lounges that are open just a few hours a day.

Not sure it is 'proof' but that is just the way it is. While you would think it is logical to get QR space ASAP and collect rent, it isn't that simple. Like most things Thailand, politics play a big part of it.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by Global321
Not sure it is 'proof' but that is just the way it is. While you would think it is logical to get QR space ASAP and collect rent, it isn't that simple. Like most things Thailand, politics play a big part of it.
Yet Singapore seemed to shed its old space and open its (lovely) new lounge in an efficient fashion.

There again, I am stuck in my ways and simply kept going to the old facility until I bumped into a closed door and a sign sending me on a long walk. So no idea how long the the new space took to develop.


AOT and the Srivaddhanaprabha clan are certainly not the most straightforward or malleable partners to deal with: but QR seems to be making heavy weather developing its Suvarnabhumi empire.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 1:57 pm
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Yep lounge opening at various destinations do not seem to be QRs strongest asset as well as nirvana in HIA. I know the LHR one was a long time in the making and I suspect that was despite HAL wanting to move things along in order to maximise rental income potential . But ultimately in respect of the LHR QR lounge was worth the wait .
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Old Aug 9, 2017, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by tav1989
Yep lounge opening at various destinations do not seem to be QRs strongest asset as well as nirvana in HIA. I know the LHR one was a long time in the making and I suspect that was despite HAL wanting to move things along in order to maximise rental income potential . But ultimately in respect of the LHR QR lounge was worth the wait .
... the heaviest weather was surely in the quite farcical DOH first-class lounge development and opening.
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Old Aug 9, 2017, 11:27 am
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... the heaviest weather was surely in the quite farcical DOH first-class lounge development and opening.
Those unicorns are notoriously difficult to work with...
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Old Aug 9, 2017, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Johnnieboy
Those unicorns are notoriously difficult to work with...
if you make a hash of it in your home-base, where airport and airline are run by much the same outfit, how can you be expected to succeed in an alien environment ?
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Old Aug 9, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Johnnieboy
Those unicorns are notoriously difficult to work with...
Exactly.

And getting them to cry, so their tears could be used in the Al Safwa water-feature, took ages!

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Old Aug 17, 2017, 4:57 pm
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I have a booking VCE-DOH-BKK in J for next month, and have just received details of a schedule change. The timings have been changed by 30 minutes or so, due to the airspace closures around DOH, I guess. No dramas, really.

However I was a little surprised with changes to the aircraft involved. The VCE-DOH leg has now become a 788 (from 333) and DOH-BKK has become a 346 (from a 77W).

Happy with the first change, not sure about the second. I didn't know the 346's were used on this route (I have flown them CMB-DOH before and not been particularly impressed).
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Old Aug 18, 2017, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by Grace B
I have a booking VCE-DOH-BKK in J for next month, and have just received details of a schedule change. The timings have been changed by 30 minutes or so, due to the airspace closures around DOH, I guess. No dramas, really.

However I was a little surprised with changes to the aircraft involved. The VCE-DOH leg has now become a 788 (from 333) and DOH-BKK has become a 346 (from a 77W).

Happy with the first change, not sure about the second. I didn't know the 346's were used on this route (I have flown them CMB-DOH before and not been particularly impressed).
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Old Aug 18, 2017, 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by Grace B
I have a booking VCE-DOH-BKK in J for next month, and have just received details of a schedule change. The timings have been changed by 30 minutes or so, due to the airspace closures around DOH, I guess. No dramas, really.

However I was a little surprised with changes to the aircraft involved. The VCE-DOH leg has now become a 788 (from 333) and DOH-BKK has become a 346 (from a 77W).

Happy with the first change, not sure about the second. I didn't know the 346's were used on this route (I have flown them CMB-DOH before and not been particularly impressed).
I have read on the forum that people have previously mentioned the substantial cargo capacity of the A340. In light of this, and the current geopolitical situation facing the country, you can see how this may therefore make sense, especially if food is involved.

If you can, grab the Row 1 seats on the A340 - the footwell is much bigger.
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Old Aug 18, 2017, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Johnnieboy
Those unicorns are notoriously difficult to work with...
...tearfully slow.....
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Old Aug 19, 2017, 2:14 am
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Originally Posted by HpW1981
If you can, grab the Row 1 seats on the A340 - the footwell is much bigger.
Thanks, I'll certainly aim to do this.
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Old Aug 22, 2017, 12:09 pm
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Hi all, a couple of quick questions, I am flying PG domestic from HKT, connecting to QR BKK-DOH international in BKK on separate tickets, with a 7-hour layover at BKK.

1. I assume that I will check in domestic in HKT, pick up luggage at BKK and re-enter international check in with QR (are these on the same terminal?)

2. What lounge do you recommend in BKK (Emerald flying QR J), for a 7-hour layover?
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Old Aug 22, 2017, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
Hi all, a couple of quick questions, I am flying PG domestic from HKT, connecting to QR BKK-DOH international in BKK on separate tickets, with a 7-hour layover at BKK.

1. I assume that I will check in domestic in HKT, pick up luggage at BKK and re-enter international check in with QR (are these on the same terminal?)

2. What lounge do you recommend in BKK (Emerald flying QR J), for a 7-hour layover?
My favorite BKK lounge is the Cathay lounge. However If it was me travelling and as I have not been in the JAL lounge since it reopened, I would hop between the two. As an aside, the Cathay lounge is only open at certain times so your choice may be limited.

Actually, Thinking abut it, With a 7 hour layover you may as well try all of them.
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