QF 107 - if late arriving in LAX, appears QF uses different aircraft to JFK
Nov 25, 2008, 3:55 pm
#16
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Firstly I wouldn't book a Ford Ghia as it is against company policy, secondly considering I drive a Fiat 500 any rental car is going to be a bucket of bolts to me anyway, and I would consider there to be little difference between a Ghia and a Festiva especially coming from Avis who seem unable to rent me a car with a straight body panel or honour my upgrade vouchers anyway. So to me now a car is a car, as a seat in Y is still a seat in Y regardless of carrier. A bit like QF and AVOD which rarely works for me, I always seem to have someone in the seat next to me in Y and the food is rubbish. That leaves the cocktail which after having travelled for 17 hours already I usually pass and just sleep. So while QF might be a Ghia to you it really is the same as a Festiva to me, as it is still just a cramp, less than ideal seat in Y which ever way you look at it. It serves the purpose of transporting me from LAX to JFK as as long as I get there within a few hours of when I was planning, I am OK with that.
Nov 25, 2008, 6:51 pm
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They will if asked. I just say that I need it for work (and it is evidence of travel if you want your private health insurance company to refund contributions for while you are overseas).
Nov 25, 2008, 7:38 pm
#19
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I must admit, the idea of QF cancelling a leg of a scheduled service due to late arriving aircraft - and bumping all the pax onto other airlines - had never occurred to me. I just assumed that the service would continue and impact down the aircraft's schedule until it returned to Oz (at which point QF could play reschedule-reshuffle). Does this happen often, does it happen with other airlines? The only one I can think of being mentioned here before is LAN cancelling AKL-SYD-AKL.
Do UA cancel SYD-MEL-SYD if their inbound is late? Do BA cancel GRU-EZE-GRU?
Is there a term for this practice? If not, can I suggest "short shunting" - just like trams!!
BD
Do UA cancel SYD-MEL-SYD if their inbound is late? Do BA cancel GRU-EZE-GRU?
Is there a term for this practice? If not, can I suggest "short shunting" - just like trams!!
BD
Nov 25, 2008, 10:33 pm
#20
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I got the answer to my question. What QF does is if QF107 is going to be significantly late arriving into LAX from SYD, then they use a different arriving flight (say QF93 from MEL) to provide the QF107 service from LAX to JFK. I suppose this allows the return QF108 to leave JFK on time and fly back to LAX to continue to SYD.
Since many traveling from SYD-JFK are likely on QF107 - the flight to JFK is likely light in loads. People transfer from the MEL and BNE flight to go to JFK.
QF then puts the QF107 people on another flight - likely an AA flight to JFK.
The net here is that if you buy a ticket on QF107 from SYD to JFK - there is no guarantee that you continue on QF107 to JFK if there is an irregularity. Hopefully, this is infreqent. QF really does not have any other choice as the turn from LAX-JFK is rather tight.
Since many traveling from SYD-JFK are likely on QF107 - the flight to JFK is likely light in loads. People transfer from the MEL and BNE flight to go to JFK.
QF then puts the QF107 people on another flight - likely an AA flight to JFK.
The net here is that if you buy a ticket on QF107 from SYD to JFK - there is no guarantee that you continue on QF107 to JFK if there is an irregularity. Hopefully, this is infreqent. QF really does not have any other choice as the turn from LAX-JFK is rather tight.