QF A332s to ops MEL-PER-MEL
Mar 19, 2008, 4:58 am
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Any idea if they are domestic config or international config?
I recall soemone saying the next 2 x 332's to be delivered were going to be domestic config and the lowe thrust rating - if it makes sense that they go onto the PER runs (though I did say earlier I thought they would go to JQ)
I recall soemone saying the next 2 x 332's to be delivered were going to be domestic config and the lowe thrust rating - if it makes sense that they go onto the PER runs (though I did say earlier I thought they would go to JQ)
Mar 19, 2008, 6:01 am
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Yay!!!!!!!!!!
A QF CSM told me a month ago that a 743 was expected to be retired middle of the year, with the rest going end of the year. I just figured it was galley gossip, as staff often know less than FT. Maybe they'll strip it for parts for the other 2.
A QF CSM told me a month ago that a 743 was expected to be retired middle of the year, with the rest going end of the year. I just figured it was galley gossip, as staff often know less than FT. Maybe they'll strip it for parts for the other 2.
Mar 19, 2008, 6:26 am
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Qantas will take delivery of a domestic A332 in JUL08 and it will directly replace a B743 on the MEL-PER-MEL route. 1x B743 will be retired.
The next A332 is due to arrive around AUG08 but I am unsure if it will go to QF domestic or JQ.
The final A332 will arrive in DEC08 and will be in full QF Intl skybed config at this stage.
From Oct/Nov 2008 all QF25/26 services will revert back to B744, thus freeing up pretty much 1 A332 for use on other/new Intl routes.
Hope this helps.
All of this is subject to change.
Thanks
The next A332 is due to arrive around AUG08 but I am unsure if it will go to QF domestic or JQ.
The final A332 will arrive in DEC08 and will be in full QF Intl skybed config at this stage.
From Oct/Nov 2008 all QF25/26 services will revert back to B744, thus freeing up pretty much 1 A332 for use on other/new Intl routes.
Hope this helps.
All of this is subject to change.
Thanks
Mar 19, 2008, 2:01 pm
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If QF delivers a domestic config 332 then this will put them a step below DJ, and JQ for MEL-PER flights as both DJ and JQ offer PTV devices and QF will not. It will also see a drop in standard for J config as well compared to the 743 and would have to make DJ PE a better alternative due to the lack of middle seat.
What are the chances of the 332 being delivered with a new generation of domestic config such as PTV and the Int PE seat as a Dom J seat?
What are the chances of the 332 being delivered with a new generation of domestic config such as PTV and the Int PE seat as a Dom J seat?
Mar 19, 2008, 4:06 pm
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Mar 19, 2008, 4:29 pm
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The "Fuel Inefficient" 743's are unlikely to meet any criteria to be operated by JQi.
Nor, for that matter, QF's future strategies for mainline ...
Nor, for that matter, QF's future strategies for mainline ...
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Mar 19, 2008, 5:20 pm
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I was unclear in my post... sorry... Iw as referring to the 2ns domestic A330-200.... and whether it owuld go to QF or JQ....
My train of thought was that if another 743 has mx issues then it will likely go to QF... I then mentioned that I am also sure JQ are keen ont hat 332 capacity so it will be interesting to see where the 332 goes....
I never thought JQ qwuld get the clapped out 743
My train of thought was that if another 743 has mx issues then it will likely go to QF... I then mentioned that I am also sure JQ are keen ont hat 332 capacity so it will be interesting to see where the 332 goes....
I never thought JQ qwuld get the clapped out 743
Mar 19, 2008, 6:36 pm
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Qantas will take delivery of a domestic A332 in JUL08 and it will directly replace a B743 on the MEL-PER-MEL route. 1x B743 will be retired.
The next A332 is due to arrive around AUG08 but I am unsure if it will go to QF domestic or JQ.
The final A332 will arrive in DEC08 and will be in full QF Intl skybed config at this stage.
From Oct/Nov 2008 all QF25/26 services will revert back to B744, thus freeing up pretty much 1 A332 for use on other/new Intl routes.
Hope this helps.
All of this is subject to change.
Thanks
The next A332 is due to arrive around AUG08 but I am unsure if it will go to QF domestic or JQ.
The final A332 will arrive in DEC08 and will be in full QF Intl skybed config at this stage.
From Oct/Nov 2008 all QF25/26 services will revert back to B744, thus freeing up pretty much 1 A332 for use on other/new Intl routes.
Hope this helps.
All of this is subject to change.
Thanks
I would have thought 332s would be much more suited to international ops because of their long range and a lower thrust rating would mean the aircraft would be unlikely to be able to be deployed as stand-in aircraft on intl services.
Mar 19, 2008, 7:18 pm
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1) They were not planning to use 332 for domestics again. The late A380/B787 caused a rethink.
2) I would be very suprised if the refuelling issue has not been mainly addressed if not completely. (i.e. The new Int. 332's have stronger floors to accomodate Skybeds)
2) I would be very suprised if the refuelling issue has not been mainly addressed if not completely. (i.e. The new Int. 332's have stronger floors to accomodate Skybeds)
Mar 19, 2008, 7:28 pm
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Surprised QF is even looking a 332s for dom ops considering their previous experience with the 333s on dom routes, not to mention that 333 would have high pax capacity for routes such as PER. This is effectively a policy reversal.
I would have thought 332s would be much more suited to international ops because of their long range and a lower thrust rating would mean the aircraft would be unlikely to be able to be deployed as stand-in aircraft on intl services.
I would have thought 332s would be much more suited to international ops because of their long range and a lower thrust rating would mean the aircraft would be unlikely to be able to be deployed as stand-in aircraft on intl services.
Mar 19, 2008, 11:46 pm
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Surprised QF is even looking a 332s for dom ops considering their previous experience with the 333s on dom routes, not to mention that 333 would have high pax capacity for routes such as PER. This is effectively a policy reversal.
I would have thought 332s would be much more suited to international ops because of their long range and a lower thrust rating would mean the aircraft would be unlikely to be able to be deployed as stand-in aircraft on intl services.
I would have thought 332s would be much more suited to international ops because of their long range and a lower thrust rating would mean the aircraft would be unlikely to be able to be deployed as stand-in aircraft on intl services.
They had also flagged that Jetstar's 332's would be coming back to the trans-con, so wouldn't say it was a policy reversal.
Added: Todays announcement on connectivity cites the 332's on domestic duty:
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn...008/mar08/3740
Mr Borghetti said the technology would initially be installed on a number of domestic B767-300 and A330-200 aircraft.
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Mar 20, 2008, 12:07 am
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Originally Posted by AN_Boy
... I would think JQ is desperate to get some more capacity... will be interesting to watch.
... ready to pounce in the event that aircraft currently accounted for in the order books hit the market again is Qantas low-cost unit Jetstar, which is on the hunt for stop-gap widebodies to cover for the expected year-long delay to the delivery of its 787s. Jetstar general manager network Pete Yap says that as the carrier awaits its 787s it plans to lease A330-200s, although other options would be considered if the A330 proves too elusive. "Ideally we would like to get A330-200s because they are known to us, but we're looking at everything short of a [Boeing] 747," says Yap. "We want something in the 250-300-seat range, so we're looking at A330s, 777s, anything - we're just seeing what's out there. Because we can't get delivery slots until a few years out we're looking to see if any airlines cancel or defer orders to see if we could take some deliveries sooner. If another Airbus or Boeing customer or lessee changes their plans, we'd be interested."