2-class 744's
 

Seating maps are now available on CheckMyTrip for confirmed bookings, as well as ITN. I have uploaded a partial screen dump to my webspace if anyone wants a look.

The map seems to indicate I am on the upper deck, only problem is that row 5 is 2+2+2, so clearly lower deck.

They appear to be still selling the P cabin as J in March, but zone 1 seems to be configured as J from April. So I guess we will have to get in soon if we want P seats at J fares.

Dave

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Dave

I just tried to look up my seating info on CheckMyTrip, but couldn't seem to find where it was. Could you assist?

Cheers, Grant

You click on the little yellow "+" at the bottom of each sector. It will then expand and seating - if allocated - will appear in there.

BUT - seating is not automagically allocated on international sectors unless you are Qantas Club, Silver, Gold or Platinum. If lowly Bronze you will have to contact QF and get it done. Would this be the reason why it wsa not showing?

Dave

Dave
Thanks for the quick response. Yes, sigh, I am a lowly bronze! I just had a look, and the strange thing is, it has been allocated but only in one of the four sectors! And believe it or not, that is on the very last sector, MEL-ADL (but we are on QF81 for this). I do appreciate your help though!
Cheers, Grant

Is that a fully domestic itinerary?

Not a problem, always try to be of assistance.

Dave

Dave
No it is ADL-MEL-LAX-SFO-LAX-MEL-ADL. Also wierd is that even though there are two of us travelling (Myself and one of my employees who is also a Bronze), on the LAX-SFO and SFO-LAX sectors, only one seat has been allocated!
Grant

It seems Check-my-trip only shows seat allocations for domestic OZ flights if they are Internationals (QF1-399). An upcoming SYD-MEL-SYD flight on QF 409 does not have seat assignment shown whereas the return MEL-SYD (QF180) DOES have seat assignment shown.

That is because seat assignments for domestic flights aren't done by the computer until the night before travel.

A great way to do it, actually.

Dave

There is some inconsistency though. No flights with #399 allow pre-selection. Fine. When it comes to domestic flights 1-399 it is badly handled. Some do not allow selection whilst others do. This is exascerbated by the telephone agents who will automatically say that pre-selection is not allowed but when pushed enough to try ( on a 1-399 ) find that they can on some services.

Dave

I have found it depends on the actual flight - QF 21 was a 733 from MEL to SYD and a 744 from SYD to NRT - you could not get advance seat selection on the MEL-SYD sector, even if flying from MEL to NRT.

QF 10 operates LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD, and is the same aircraft throughout - and seat selection is available on the MEL-SYD sector.

I think that the actual aircraft operation is a factor in this.

Dave

Seems the two-class 744's will be coming on stream a lot earlier than planned.

See on the below link my seating allocation for a SIN-SYD flight in 2/03:

http://www.netspace.net.au/~thadocta/sinsyd.jpg

Notice that rows 25, 26, etc are configured 3-4-3?

Every QF 744 I have been on has had these rows in J, and the Pacific aircraft go even further back than 27 (which is the last row of J for the Kangaroo fleet).

Also, why the large discrepancy between seating on the starboard side of the aircraft in rows 29 to 33, compared to the port side? The middle section is also taken up.

Is this planned for galley sections in the new two-class 744's?

Inquiring minds need to know!

Dave

I have the same seating plan for QF25 in May. I am assuming the forward galley is on the starboard side. In fact, that attracted me to seek the first few rows on the starboard side for our party of 7. Original automatic allocation was 25 d,e,f,g,h,j,k, which I had changed to include a few windows rather than all bulkhead.

But you are right in that this is an earlier adoption than I was expecting to see. Perhaps they are finishing off the IFE system upgrades at the same time as the 2-class reconfig, which would make sence.

Yeah, from the seat map, looks like they're taking out those two closets and the J lav and putting in Y seats -- perhaps getting rid of that little cross-corridor just before the second former biz compartment too?!

What was the last one like this -- the 747SPs? Didn't they have a starboard side galley?

Think El Al does that too.

Will be interesting!

Yep, the -SP's had starboard side forward galleys. The first Y seats on the starboard side were row 35. There were rows 23-17 with ABC and rows 24-27 with DEFG between the 1L and 2L doors. The entire startboard side between doors 1R and 2R was galley.

I have fond memories of flying from SYD to BNE on VH-EAB, back in the silly days of $33 fares, and being seated in the first row in the middle section, aisle seat. Served a delightful smoked salmon dish for the "snack", with an excellent chardonnay, served by the half bottle.

One thing though, you sure that middle section went DEFG? The G seat would he hard up against a well, and having to climb over THREE passengers to get out would not be my idea of fun. My memories are that there were only three seats in that section.

Dave

Rows 23-27 on the SP's were configured ABC-DEF; I did more than my fair share of flights in these seats!

Yes, you are quite correct. ABC-DEF. I went back and checked the seatmap and the G that appears to the right of the F seats is in fact the Galley http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif.

Have another Scotch.

Dave

thanks Dave. Don't mind if I do. Unfortunately I am in Sydney today http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif. And not in the QC, so a decent Scotch is not an option tonight (can't bring myself to pay the hotel minibar prices!) so I will have to settle for my boss's choice of wine at dinner. But, being a complete wine Philistine, I suppose he could have ordered anything and I would have said it was very good. At least i was able to consume a few Boags at the bar before dinner http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.

And what is wrong with being in Sydney today? (Apart from the heat, but you Brisbanites should be used to that!)

Also, apart from the smoke, and the fires, and the humidity - I see your point.

Anyone want to man one of our tankers at Regentville RFS? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Dave

NM, Glenfiddich is running a promo in the Sydney QC (well they were there on the 22nd anyway!)

Hey, I sort of remember the last time that did this promo. Well, actually I remember entering the lounge, asking for a few samples and then .... well I remember I made it home. I'll be there about 6pm tomorrow so I'll report back about the promo.

Dave, I the problem with Sydney is not the weather ... it is the location. And the fact that when I am in Sydney, I am not at home with my loved ones. But I do hope and pray for an easing of the dry heat in this neck of the woods.

Well, just as I arrived at the SYD lounge at 5:30pm tonight, there were two young ladies packing up some empty bottles of Glenfiddich. Seems I had just missed out http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif. Then, just as my flight was called, they were returning to the lounge, presumably to start serving again http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif. Talk about upsetting! They ceased over the peak lounge occupation time.

Oh well, had to settle for 3 of that JW Red stuff. And the only way to drink that is to fill the glass with ginger ale. I suppose I could have had a few Crownies or HP's. But my mind was set on the scotch.

By the way, the normal entrance was closed as they refurbish the eastern end of the lounge. Entry was via the previously-always-closed western entrance.

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Life's a *****, isn't it (I wonder if the violators of the first amendment right to free speech will censor that word).

As I am not a scotch drinker, I can't tell the difference. I am more a bourbon drinker, or the good beers.

Yeah, noticed this last Sunday when they cancelled my flight from CBR to SYD and put me on a flight 80 mins prior. Only thing is, my lift was not given sufficient notice to get there 80 mins earlier, so I waited in the lounge on arrival.

Oh well, these things need to be done. Needed to go all the way to the end of the lounge to get into the business centre though, since the new buffet they are installing blocks the short entrance.

Dave

Dave, not a scotch drinker?

Just so you know:

Johnny Walker Red: Emergencies Only
Johnny Walker Black: Now I can Concentrate!
Glenfiddich: Involuntary Smiling
Rusty Nail with Glenfiddich: In Love

BTW, now where is the Qantas Scotch Club -- THERE they could make a mint!

Cheers!

Actually, I'll the JW Black over the 12 yo GF most days. I prefer a good blended to a single malt. JW Gold will bring more than a smile to this little black duck. But when they bring out the older GF (the 18 yo is winderful) I will quite happily migrate to the SM's for a brief time. BA serve the GF Solara Reserve (15 yo I think) minitures in J.

You guys make me salivate talking about all this great scotch while I am having a conversation with some VB cans. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif It must be the rainy weather... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

VB .... pffftttt. Sorry, but if we must drink beer then make sure it is drinkable! Coopers, Boags, Cascade, Hahn, for the ales and largers. Tooheys Old or Newky Brown for the darker taste.

Now, why get into the complex world of boutique beers? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif Besides, didn't one of our friends here once say that Crown is really VB in a different bottle? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

That would be Scott, and I think he said that to denigrate Crown, rather then promote VB. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Having said that though, I don't mind a Crownie, don't mind a VB, but prefer Tooheys New (heck, I am from the western suburbs of Sydney, so I am *supposed to like it!).

I must admit though I am rather partial to Hahn Premium.

Dave

And did you notice which Carlton product is not in my list! Given a choice of Crown or VB, I'll leave the VB.

Contrary to what people here may think, I don't drink a great deal of beer http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif. But when I do, I like it to taste like beer, not something that the neighbour's cat left puddled under the car. When I travel, I like to try different beers and sample the local brews as much as I can, so really do appreciate the growth of micro breweries (or at least the wider availability of their product) in the US in the last few years.

But when I actually purchase beer with my own hard-earned cash (or credit card - must earn those FF points), it tends to be one of the ones I listed above.