Kiwi Flyer

Even 1200 SCs (to requalify platinum) is very hard if travelling only domestically in NZ. A round trip between Wellington and Auckland, for example, every week of the year is not enough.

Traveloguy

I think based on IMOA's experience and the changes to the T's and C's it is safe to say that a person won't progress through the QF status chain if they don't do 4 sectors per membership year. I therefore suspect that should a person fly 1400 SCs in a year and yet does not fly the required 4 sectors will still be a NB. Having said that, I suspect that should they fly the required 4 sectors, they would automatically jump from NB to WP.

Might be something to consider for those doing a AONEx or DONEx and crediting to QF yet not flying QF until the end of their journey.

spotwelder

Checking the other way, on Expedia AMS-LHR-AMS is showing as GBP 480 (incl taxes) using the QF designator (again business class).

should save me, not too expensive, as I have to do at least one of those anyway, or a way of banking a couple of sectors to QF, if it works!

now, if we can work out how to do this on AA as I plod on some of the codeshare flights quite easily....

I have not taken the RTW option as I am too busy shuttling through London at the moment.

spotwelder

If there has been a change to the Ts and Cs, which appears to be documented earlier, should we not have been told before they were enforced? Is there not a minimum notification time?

off to check my options as I have not seen a QF newsletter in my email for ages.

checked it and not been sent by email as requested.

Dave Noble

There is no change to the T&C in regards to the requirement for 4 segments to be flown however, since it was always in there, just that QF used not to enforce the term

I don't see that there is grounds to complain to QFF in this instance

Dave

wandering_fred

I suppose just another no-brainer for those living in SYD/CBR/MEL/BNE as 4 segments would turn out to be quite inexpensive and no real indication of loyalty. Any where else QF seems to be saying - do we really need QFF members there - unless they really are loyal?

OTOH I would guess I will lose my "complimentary" QFPS renewals as my multiple RTs on QF SIN-PER each year get credited to AAnother airline.

With the demise of the AY flights SIN-BKK it appears the best SC values per $ will be CX business class ex BKK (CMB and HKG) or SIN (BKK and CMB) if you can't get to the USA for AA YUP segments. Either of those oprtions would make SQ attainable in a reasonable manner when combined with the flights to get there from Australia.

Happy wandering.

Fred

og

May have been reported earlier, but the QF web for "your activity" now shows which flights qualify for status. I think this is new.

Kiwi Flyer

Agree.

T&Cs can be changed at any time, and often are. This is something that annoys me since by booking or flying you are deemed to have accepted the T&Cs but the airlines are under no obligation to publicise any changes as long as they are posted on the website. How many people read them every time they make a booking or take a flight? Very customer unfriendly, but not applicable this time as the rule hasn't changed.

Dave Noble

If you are not crediting flights to Qantas, then it would seem quite reasonable for them not to give status; with flights to SIN, you would have no issue making the requirements if you were to credit to QF however you have chosen to credit to another scheme.

As far as cheap ways to get status, I suspect that most members who get get status do sp by the virtue of travel that they happen to do rather than insanely (imo) do travel just in order to get status

It doesn't seem that unreasonable for QF to decide that they do not want to provide the benefits of "loyalty" to those who provide little to no custom to the airline.

I can see how this change is an issue for those living in places like Europe where there are few QF flight options, but not for those in Australia ( even Perth ) .

Dave

number_6

I'm not convinced that QF is enforcing the 4 segments across the board. I was renewed recently (as WP) without having 4 segments on QF in QFF (actually I had 0 segments and 0 SCs as all QF flights were credited to AA instead). It would be a drastic change in marketing strategy to go from that position to enforcing the 4 segments across the board. What they may be doing is looking at each traveler individually, analyzing profitability and stretching the rules when it is profitable to do so. I believe the software to do this is now being marketed by several sources (and works no matter what FF plan you credit it to).

Dave Noble

From looking at it, especially with them now showing whether the flight was eligable towards the flight segment count and the entry showing number of qualifying segments flown ( which disappears once the 4 is reached ) that apart from the complimentary renewals to those who fail to reach the renewal requirements, that they do intend to enforce it across the board

Dave

serfty

There is a change in the rules in this regard; Award flight segment would previously have counted:The rule 19.1.5 has been modified thus:
So "Free"/Industry/Award or any QF flight segments not deemed eligible no longer qualify.

Dave Noble

Hmm.. Well I would agree that someone who has already taken 4 award sectors could well have a reasonable grounds to be awarded status

Dave

sxc

Maybe the rule is changed to remove ambiguity. In the original rules, it states "the travel required to attain or retain silver...etc" seems to implicitly exclude award travel, as award travel is not required and cannot help you attain or retain status.

My reading of the original rule wording would not make me think that award travel counts to your 4 sector count...but QF may have decided to remove any doubt since they are now enforcing it.

serfty

Taken on its own "... must include a minimum of four Segments on Qantas or QantasLink" leaves quite a bit of leeway ...

B•s anyone?