NM

The example on which I commented was a person who travels once a year in F SYD-LHR-SYD. Such a person has no need for lounge access in the USA or to invoke the assured Y seat. My comment was in relation to a once-a-year F traveller not qualifying for status and not missing out on much, and I stand by that comment. You situations are very different from the example on which my comment was based.

hauteboy

Actually you can requalify for WP for under $1300
They've already extended my status till Apr 08, should I worry about they might revoke it before then? I've had flights on BA/AA but no QF segments.

serfty

I can't see Qantas revoking status after granting it.

If you've got 'til Apr '08, then I guess you will need four Eligible QF segments between May 1 and then. Any QF segments flown this month probably won't count towards the "four".

hauteboy

That's good. Last minute weekend MR's to Australia/NZ are pretty pricy.
I should be able to SFO-YVR runs sometime later this year. I was suprised they extended my WP early, I'd only earned 420 SC's at the time they extended it. Some planned BA flights posted to my BA account instead of QF.

davidMEL

I wonder whether QF will now start checking the identification of those making domestic flights as I suspect a few overseas FFs desperate to retain QF status will simply have their friends fly four domestic segments under their own name to satisfy this requirement.

i was always surprised by how a mere FF card could result in a boarding card at check in. and much more horrified that any old holder of a Chairman's Lounge card and even their guests need just announce themselves for a boarding card to be issued.

would QF ever know?

would it care?

perverse incentives indeed.

Tyrolean

Good Idea, I was thinking about that, too.
Passing my Goldcard to my friends, they enjoy the QP and I get the Segments.

I see no porblem in not checking the identity. With your card you have done identification enought. I am delighted that there are other countries than some in europe where you do not need an ID-Check to fly.
When I started to fly in Germany I never had an ID to prove my identification. In the beginning the ticket was enought. With electronic tickets the Frequent-Flyer Card is sufficient. I see no security problem. My luggage and I are security screened?
There are some countries in Europe that enforce the ID checking (Italy, France, Luxemburg, UK,…) but there are some that do not (Germany, Austria,…) and they do not have security problems.

Spiff

QF flight number, operated by AA. (SFO-LAX) Yes or no?

number_6

Yes, but can only be booked as part of Australia-LAX-SFO.

Spiff

Understood and thank you. (I'm actually looking at SFO-LAX-AKL-LAX-SFO)

I'm trying to grab 4 segments and stay as short as possible this year. Next year, I'll plan a longer stay as I now know I need to make a QF trip each year until I hit Life SG.

number_6

Ah, the value of lifetime AC access. You already have life Sapphire (from AA) but need QF for the AC part. When QFF is spun off as part of gutting QF, the life SG is almost certain to end (for those who haven't already qualified), so it is a bit risky in view of the current situation.

QF has about 30 codeshares in the US, with varioius airlines (used to have LAX-PHX on HP/US, for example, but that has been discontinued); so you can get 2 extra segments from almost anywhere in the US as part of a QF ticket to Au/NZ.

Spiff

Will QFF really get trashed so badly that purchased Lifetime Club is a safer bet than working for Lifetime SG?

Dave Noble

There is nothing to say that anything will happen at all to the Qantas Frequent Flyer scheme , just speculation.

Dave

number_6

Lifetime QP seems pretty high risk to me. Access to Qantas Club locations is assured for the next 20 years, but no guarantee about AA and BA lounge access in the long term. QF already has some lounges today which don't allow QP access, and this could grow.

One of the partners in the QF buyout specializes in spinning off FF plans, so what do you think they have in mind for QFF? Of course nothing has been announced -- they didn't even announce their plan to take 36% of the sale price back out of the airline in the first year, until the law required them to make such a disclosure. The QFF changes will be announced as "today we are ..." rather than "next year we are ...". Do you really think they would leave over a billion on the table, just to keep the FF members happy?

chrisb

I just noticed that my QFF Full Summary page used to have a eligible flight count on it, but its now gone.

In the flight summary page it still has ~ next to the appropriate flights.

Chrisb.

Dave Noble

Have you met the 4 flight requirement? If so, that will be why it has disappeared

Dave