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guyinyyz Nov 3, 2007 9:53 am

Upgrade Question
 
I could be way off the mark here, but i have a question about upgrading on my LAX-BNE flight.
I was talking to a colleague at work a little while back, and he told me that Qantas has coupons you can purchase to upgrade from Economy to Business. Can anyone confirm this, and if you can, could you please explain how? We are going on our honeymoon and would obviously love to be in business class :)

Thanks

thadocta Nov 3, 2007 10:06 am


Originally Posted by guyinyyz (Post 8670323)
I could be way off the mark here, but i have a question about upgrading on my LAX-BNE flight.
I was talking to a colleague at work a little while back, and he told me that Qantas has coupons you can purchase to upgrade from Economy to Business. Can anyone confirm this, and if you can, could you please explain how? We are going on our honeymoon and would obviously love to be in business class :)

Your colleague has no idea.

You can waitlist to upgrade using your QF points. Your pecking order on the upgrade list will depend on your QF status firstly, and then when you were placed on the waitlist, and finally on how many seats QF decide to release for upgrades.

Unless you have a fairly high QF status, I don't rate your chances overly highly.

Welcome to the forum, btw.

Dave

DownUnderFlyer Nov 3, 2007 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by guyinyyz (Post 8670323)
I could be way off the mark here, but i have a question about upgrading on my LAX-BNE flight.
I was talking to a colleague at work a little while back, and he told me that Qantas has coupons you can purchase to upgrade from Economy to Business. Can anyone confirm this, and if you can, could you please explain how? We are going on our honeymoon and would obviously love to be in business class :)

Thanks

The only coupon you could buy is a LAX-BNE ticket in J. QF doesn't have any on departure upgrades, coupons etc other than using their own FF points. Unlike *A you can't even use FF points of another OW carrier to upgrade.
So unless you have lots of points and a high QF FF status your chances of an upgrade are slim.
Why don't you take AC's new 777 from YVR to SYD and the a cheap flight up to BNE?

Hvr Nov 3, 2007 8:00 pm


DownUnderFlyer "So unless you have lots of points and a high QF FF status your chances of an upgrade are slim."
Slightly OT here but why the requirement for lots of points? Surely you would need enough to 'pay' for the upgrade but no more?

I understand the need for status and how that works but not the need for excess points.

This is of interest to me because I am hoping to get an upgrade early next year (NRT-MEL) and will have just enough points at the earliest possible date to apply and SG status should help.

NM Nov 3, 2007 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by Hvr (Post 8672789)
Slightly OT here but why the requirement for lots of points? Surely you would need enough to 'pay' for the upgrade but no more?

Because QF's upgrades are generally considered to cost a lot of points compared with upgrade options on some other carriers.

The OP will need 72,000 QF FF points per person for a one-way upgrade from discount economy (anything other than Y booking class) to business class.

DownUnderFlyer Nov 3, 2007 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by Hvr (Post 8672789)
Slightly OT here but why the requirement for lots of points? Surely you would need enough to 'pay' for the upgrade but no more?

I understand the need for status and how that works but not the need for excess points.

This is of interest to me because I am hoping to get an upgrade early next year (NRT-MEL) and will have just enough points at the earliest possible date to apply and SG status should help.

Of course you only need the required points, not more. The reason why I stressed the lots of points issue was that people from other frequent flyer programs are often shocked when they see how many points you need on QF (and the OP seems to be new to QF).

I just booked SYD-PPT on NZ in business and needed 45k LH miles return. With QF you would need 120k points. Both LH and QF points are equally hard or easy to get for me so the earn/burn ratio is shocking on QF.

Traveloguy Nov 4, 2007 6:26 am


Originally Posted by thadocta (Post 8670363)

Unless you have a fairly high QF status, I don't rate your chances overly highly.

Actually the upgrade priority is based on the status of the person requesting the upgrade and not the passenger travelling. Therefore if the OPs colleague is a WP, their changes could be somewhat improved.

That said, I doubt transpac upgrades are easy to get even if you your high up the status food chain considering the loads QF manages to get on those flights.

JohnK Nov 4, 2007 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by Traveloguy (Post 8674024)
Actually the upgrade priority is based on the status of the person requesting the upgrade and not the passenger travelling. Therefore if the OPs colleague is a WP, their changes could be somewhat improved.

That is not correct according to Qantas Flight Upgrades.


Originally Posted by Qantas Flight Upgrades
Upgrades are allocated according to your membership level: Platinum Frequent Flyers first, followed by Gold, Silver and then Bronze. When using your points to upgrade an eligible family member with a lesser priority, that member's priority will apply.


Hvr Nov 4, 2007 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by NM (Post 8673321)
Because QF's upgrades are generally considered to cost a lot of points compared with upgrade options on some other carriers.

The OP will need 72,000 QF FF points per person for a one-way upgrade from discount economy (anything other than Y booking class) to business class.

Thanks NM and DownUnderFlyer for your prompt and informative answers.

Much appreciated.

H

Traveloguy Nov 5, 2007 5:47 am


Originally Posted by JohnK (Post 8676635)
That is not correct according to Qantas Flight Upgrades.

Sounds like a revision as it used to work the way I described. :(

serfty Nov 5, 2007 6:11 am


Originally Posted by Traveloguy (Post 8678089)
Sounds like a revision as it used to work the way I described. :(

It certainly is a change this year. It used to work this way (undocumented) but Qantas changed it some months ago, and made it clear in the T&C's.

Perhaps there were too many uncle WP's upgrading their "rellos" ...

Traveloguy Nov 5, 2007 6:18 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 8678158)
It certainly is a change this year. It used to work this way (undocumented) but Qantas changed it some months ago, and made it clear in the T&C's.

Perhaps there were too many uncle WP's upgrading their "rellos" ...

Another downgrade of benefits... :(

Thanks for the heads up - at least I know know it is not worth giving my miles away to rellos anymore. ;)

NM Nov 5, 2007 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 8678158)
It certainly is a change this year. It used to work this way (undocumented) but Qantas changed it some months ago, and made it clear in the T&C's.

Perhaps there were too many uncle WP's upgrading their "rellos" ...

I know the current T&C says its now different, but has anyone actually found it to work in the way described in the T&C? It would not be the first time the computer program logic did not match the legalese in the T&Cs.


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