FF program enhancements*
#16
Join Date: Aug 2001
Programs: AA Plat & LTG; QF LTG
Posts: 9,837
#17
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AAdvantage EXP
Posts: 1,482
I agree with simongr, that told us nothing. (Not criticising moa999, thanks for the posting it though.)
I eagerly await for the news on what they plan to take away. As we know, they will never give on one hand and not take away from another.
I suspect the take away will be even worse than last time (and we thought it was bad then). The last round was mostly caused by the introduction of the Skybed. Now, we're looking at the A380, Premium Economy, Skybed 2, improved First, brand new lounges, and even AVOD...! Imagine the possibilities...!
I eagerly await for the news on what they plan to take away. As we know, they will never give on one hand and not take away from another.
I suspect the take away will be even worse than last time (and we thought it was bad then). The last round was mostly caused by the introduction of the Skybed. Now, we're looking at the A380, Premium Economy, Skybed 2, improved First, brand new lounges, and even AVOD...! Imagine the possibilities...!
I am just relieved that I switched to AA but still earn enough on my amex to "pay" for 4 F upgrades a year - more than enough
#18
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SYD
Programs: |QF Platinum|HH Gold|DL Silver|ALL Silver|
Posts: 1,736
I move to the US later in the year, currently less than 400 SC from Platinum by 31 December, should I start earning in AA instead?
#19
Moderator: Coupon Connection & S.P.A.M
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Louisville, KY
Programs: Destination Unknown, TSA Disparager Diamond (LTDD)
Posts: 57,946
QF Plat + AA Plat = go for it.
QF Gold + AA Plat = good too.
QF Gold + AA Gold = ok, but not too many upgrAAdes...
#20
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold(OWE), QF LTG, MR Plat, IHG Spire, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,156
I think the burn rate for QF is obscene, especially if you only earn by flying.
However on the good side - you get 1.5 miles per A$ on the Qantas Amex.
In the UK I only get up to 1.5 miles per Ł - so BA miles are about 2.4 times harder to come by (and should be worth 2.4 times more)!
I'm still sitting on my BA companion voucher - and 147K miles... initially I was aiming for LHR-SFO in Club - but 100K points came and went - now I nearly have enough for FIRST... but somehow 200K doesn't seem so far off and that's enough for LHR-SYD in Club - I think I could cope with that (+ free companion)
However on the good side - you get 1.5 miles per A$ on the Qantas Amex.
In the UK I only get up to 1.5 miles per Ł - so BA miles are about 2.4 times harder to come by (and should be worth 2.4 times more)!
I'm still sitting on my BA companion voucher - and 147K miles... initially I was aiming for LHR-SFO in Club - but 100K points came and went - now I nearly have enough for FIRST... but somehow 200K doesn't seem so far off and that's enough for LHR-SYD in Club - I think I could cope with that (+ free companion)
#21
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SCL, MCT, LGW and a variety of 1W lounges in between.
Programs: BA Mucci (Seigneur et Ingenieur des Appareils Volants (Gold)), QF (WP and LTG), AA EXP, GF Gold
Posts: 3,931
Well as someone that had several hundred thousand QF miles expire under the old rules as there was no availability and now sitting on over half a million and cannot get a redemption from LHR to SYD in October (according to the QF computer) in any class, then it does not matter if they charge a million miles for a redemption on the A380 on the Kangaroo Route.
When are QF going to realise that I cannot book a redemption flight 300+ days in advance? Still, as it is an Australian frequent shopper programme and not a 1W frequent flyer programme for redemption, then what do you expect?
When are QF going to realise that I cannot book a redemption flight 300+ days in advance? Still, as it is an Australian frequent shopper programme and not a 1W frequent flyer programme for redemption, then what do you expect?
#22
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Australia
Programs: QF LTS, Marriott LTP, ALL GOLD
Posts: 2,440
Well as someone that had several hundred thousand QF miles expire under the old rules as there was no availability and now sitting on over half a million and cannot get a redemption from LHR to SYD in October (according to the QF computer) in any class, then it does not matter if they charge a million miles for a redemption on the A380 on the Kangaroo Route.
When are QF going to realise that I cannot book a redemption flight 300+ days in advance? Still, as it is an Australian frequent shopper programme and not a 1W frequent flyer programme for redemption, then what do you expect?
When are QF going to realise that I cannot book a redemption flight 300+ days in advance? Still, as it is an Australian frequent shopper programme and not a 1W frequent flyer programme for redemption, then what do you expect?
#23
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: LON
Programs: QF Plat & LTG, VA Plat
Posts: 1,434
yes they have been known to request (and obtain) a seat from revenue management for plats on occaison. i know someone that this was done for. worth a try i guess. spotwelder you're getting used to those seats down the back of the bus now aren't you?
#24
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Melbourne, Vic., Australia.
Programs: QF Platinum One (LTG), UA Plat IHG Plat
Posts: 5,836
I don't know that we have "sucker" written all over us.. but closer to "captive audience" - given that DJ, while they do have velocity, it really can't compete in this area (IMHO) and the foreign airline loyalty programs would only capture a small percentage of customers, and anyone who is high enough yield to QF for them to care about (read J and F buying passengers) would be locked into QFF anyway.
Of course we know anytime the word "enhancement" is used it's BAD for the customer!
Of course we know anytime the word "enhancement" is used it's BAD for the customer!
#25
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SCL, MCT, LGW and a variety of 1W lounges in between.
Programs: BA Mucci (Seigneur et Ingenieur des Appareils Volants (Gold)), QF (WP and LTG), AA EXP, GF Gold
Posts: 3,931
Mind you, I have just applied for a job in New Zealand and hope to get an interview so that I can get the four sectors for renewal in that way as NZ domestic run up and down the country. It might be a better way than overnight to SYD, a couple of CBRs and back to the UK in the afternoon as the cheapest way to do it for London based. Apparently asking the powers that be to arrange for a big crash in Australia so that I can get four sectors in might be unethical.
#26
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AAdvantage EXP
Posts: 1,482
Why not? I am thsi week planning a RTW AAward booking in July next year. Frankly with my travel schedule, wife's work commitments and locking the rest of teh overases family, if I didnt book 330 days+ in advance I wouldnt be able to confirm the vacation. My UK family have already complained that I couldnt commit to a tarvel date early enough for them!
#27
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: LON
Programs: QF Plat & LTG, VA Plat
Posts: 1,434
aircraft crashes - you're probably right. though we do seem to be doing a good job at train and ferry crashes on our own already
Last edited by justin_krusty; Aug 19, 2007 at 10:51 pm Reason: typo
#28
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Newcastle, Australia.
Programs: QF Plat+ LTG/ OW Emerald, VA Plat, NZ Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Whatsit. Taxation is theft.
Posts: 2,636
They've been great in my experience - organised some seats in J to Rome & back for the MIL a couple of years ago, along with some more recent domestic J awards. Top marks.
#29
Moderator: Asiana & Qantas Frequent Flyer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: STR/SYD/SMF
Programs: QF SG, LH SEN, OZ D+, HH D, SPG P
Posts: 14,343
Any Seat Award
I hope this hasn't been posted already. If yes, please delete. It came with a QF E-Mail today.
"From mid 2008 exciting new benefits are planned, including increased seat availability for when you want to fly with our new Any Seat Awards. We're also planning to expand our extensive family of partners and our reward range, so you'll be able to earn and redeem points in a variety of new ways."
"From mid 2008 exciting new benefits are planned, including increased seat availability for when you want to fly with our new Any Seat Awards. We're also planning to expand our extensive family of partners and our reward range, so you'll be able to earn and redeem points in a variety of new ways."
#30
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,990
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
I hope this hasn't been posted already. If yes, please delete. It came with a QF E-Mail today.
"From mid 2008 exciting new benefits are planned, including increased seat availability for when you want to fly with our new Any Seat Awards. We're also planning to expand our extensive family of partners and our reward range, so you'll be able to earn and redeem points in a variety of new ways."
"From mid 2008 exciting new benefits are planned, including increased seat availability for when you want to fly with our new Any Seat Awards. We're also planning to expand our extensive family of partners and our reward range, so you'll be able to earn and redeem points in a variety of new ways."
The interesting part read:
Originally Posted by More for Frequent Flyers
From mid 2008 exciting new benefits are planned...
3.2 Qantas will use best efforts to advise Members of material changes to these Terms and Conditions and, where such changes will limit Benefits:
(a) where the Benefit is provided by Qantas, to give Members at least 6 months' notice;
(b) where the Benefit is provided by a third party, where possible give Members at least 30 days' notice.
(a) where the Benefit is provided by Qantas, to give Members at least 6 months' notice;
(b) where the Benefit is provided by a third party, where possible give Members at least 30 days' notice.
Last edited by serfty; Aug 20, 2007 at 7:25 am