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rtwdone4 Jul 19, 2007 6:18 pm

QF Interlining
 
I have a friend who will be taking QF from SYD-HKG and then overnight in HKG and take the morning flight to NRT with NH.

It is 2 seperate tickets

What are the chances of QF checking the bags right through to NRT and issuing the BPs for NH.

I know QF is not bound to do this, but do they have any flexibility? I have done something similar, but it was with CX, and I had no problems.

Thanks

NM Jul 19, 2007 6:36 pm

If the time spent in HKG between scheduled arrival time and scheduled departure time is more than 12 hours, then bags cannot be through checked. CX won't even bend that one when arrival and departure is on CX. Apparently its a HKIA rule.

If less than 12 hours in transit then you may have a chance.

There is left-luggage facilities at HKIA in the arrivals area after you exit from customs. As you exit, turn right and its well signed at the end of the hall.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 19, 2007 7:02 pm

Even if bags can be through checked, will definitely not be able to check in for a NH flight at SYD.

bensyd Jul 20, 2007 4:26 am


Originally Posted by NM (Post 8087327)
If the time spent in HKG between scheduled arrival time and scheduled departure time is more than 12 hours, then bags cannot be through checked. CX won't even bend that one when arrival and departure is on CX. Apparently its a HKIA rule.

If less than 12 hours in transit then you may have a chance.

There is left-luggage facilities at HKIA in the arrivals area after you exit from customs. As you exit, turn right and its well signed at the end of the hall.

I had a 13 hour layover at HKIA and was able to check my bags right through to my final destination.

VH-RMD Jul 20, 2007 4:53 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 8087425)
Even if bags can be through checked, will definitely not be able to check in for a NH flight at SYD.

I am interested why you say that, and am not trying to be provocative, just interested in why that is not possible?

I ask because I have been able to through connect using Star Alliance connecting to One World carriers previously.

NM Jul 20, 2007 5:34 am


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 8089055)
I had a 13 hour layover at HKIA and was able to check my bags right through to my final destination.

Then you were lucky to find a check-in agent that was willing to bend the rules for you.

In years past it was certainly possible to do that. But not in recent times. I am not sure exactly when the 12-hour rule came in, but expect it was in the last 2 years or so.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 20, 2007 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by MetroAir (Post 8089104)
I am interested why you say that, and am not trying to be provocative, just interested in why that is not possible?

I ask because I have been able to through connect using Star Alliance connecting to One World carriers previously.

To check in for onward flight they have to have access to that airline's system. If all on one ticket then it will permit check in of subsequent legs as long as they are using airline with compatible system and that remote check in is open for the onward flight.

If all on one ticket might not be able to check in if system isn't compatible - eg I used to have trouble getting boarding passes for SAS flights when checking in for a sequence of flights starting with Air NZ or Singapore (that may or may not have changed subsequently).

You also might not be able to check in if the airline hasn't opened the flight for remote check in. For example, European airlines tended to open 30 or 36 hours prior which was great for those connecting from down under, whereas United tends to open only 20 or so hours before which may mean no BP until reach the states.

If on separate ticket then normally the only access will be by the airline operating that flight. So if it is the same airline you can get checked in even though on separate ticket (I do this sometimes when travelling domestic NZ on separate ticket to international if I have a tight connection), but should not be possible if different airline on separate ticket.

rtwdone4 Jul 20, 2007 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by NM (Post 8089216)
Then you were lucky to find a check-in agent that was willing to bend the rules for you.

In years past it was certainly possible to do that. But not in recent times. I am not sure exactly when the 12-hour rule came in, but expect it was in the last 2 years or so.

I think you got tricked by QF/CX or whoever told you the rule. I did around 10trips in transit at HKG for > 12 hours and I NEVER had problem with the bags not interline. I don't think it is rules

Also if you do turn arounds, they can check ur bags to the final destination without sending them to the turnaround point.

rtwdone4 Jul 20, 2007 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 8093059)
If on separate ticket then normally the only access will be by the airline operating that flight. So if it is the same airline you can get checked in even though on separate ticket (I do this sometimes when travelling domestic NZ on separate ticket to international if I have a tight connection), but should not be possible if different airline on separate ticket.


Except if it is the same Alliance? I have seperate tickets on CX and QF before and QF could check me through to the CX flights.

Ig also seen CX checking people with differernt tickets and different airlines (eg. CX-AC)

The bag tags can be labled to ANY destiantions, but the BP might not spit out if the other airline haven't opened the flight yet.

Also depending on the policy of the airline and sometimes the MOOD of the CSO.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 20, 2007 6:12 pm

Tagging bags through is not the same as checking in. Anyone can tag bags through based on interline agreements. No need to be the same ticket, although some airlines have a policy to not through check on separate tickets (to limit their liability in case the bag doesn't make the transfer).

NM Jul 22, 2007 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by rtwdone4 (Post 8093141)
I think you got tricked by QF/CX or whoever told you the rule. I did around 10trips in transit at HKG for > 12 hours and I NEVER had problem with the bags not interline. I don't think it is rules

My situation was a check-in at DFW using AA for DFW-LAX-HKG-KUL and I wanted bags tagged to KUL. The system would not allow the agent to tag the bags to KUL and would only permit as far as HKG. When I asked why, the agent read something from here screen about the transit exceeding 12 hour rule for HKG, and she checked with a supervisor who agreed this was a HKG rule and they could not check it through.

Now this was also an overnight transit, with arrival into HKG around 7pm and departure the following morning at 9:35am. So perhaps this only applies to overnight connections? But the AA check-in agent was adamant there was no way she could tag the bag through.

I had a similar response previously when I tried to check a bag from KUL-HKG-MEL again where the HKG transit was overnight. This time it was an MH agent doing CX check-in at KL Sentral for the KUL departure. The system would not permit the through tag, but they could print my boarding pass for HKG-MEL. Again I was told it due to >12 hours, but maybe they neglected to add the fact that it was also overnight transit.


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