- - C Class or D class
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DownUnderFlyer
Mar 14, 2007 8:45 pm
Originally Posted by og
(Post 7403594)
QF - from personal experience (SYD-LHR-SYD).
I had the same issue today. QF32 this Sunday: Only availability in J and C, but nothing in D. So I am on a waitlist which they tell me will not clear for my DONE4.
alect
Mar 14, 2007 9:43 pm
Originally Posted by number_6
(Post 7401122)
In current usage J and C seem to have become equivalent. Historically C was the standard full fare flexible business class, and J was 10% higher fare for a "premium" product when various airlines introduced first-generation improved business seats (pre-beds). Now some airlines use C, some use J. Cannot remember any airline that uses both J and C; and they seem to be completely equivalent on most airlines. D is usually discounted and refundable/changeable (with a fee) while I is a greater discount but non-refundable and often allowing no changes (not even date!).
Given that' s the history of C/J you would think on Japan Routes QF would use J for skybeds and C for non-skybeds. But why do that when you can slap on a surcharge :rolleyes:
NM
Mar 15, 2007 2:22 am
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 7404946)
I had the same issue today. QF32 this Sunday: Only availability in J and C, but nothing in D. So I am on a waitlist which they tell me will not clear for my DONE4.
Sunday departures to Asia and UK are always tight for D availability. They can generally fill business class cabin with J/C sales so restrict the D seats. Probably lots free for Tuesday or Wednesday departures.
og
Mar 15, 2007 4:53 am
Originally Posted by NM
(Post 7406027)
...Probably lots free for Tuesday or Wednesday departures.
Exactly the same strategy for flying in UA's upgrade (AKA "C") cabin on trans-Pacific.
DownUnderFlyer
Mar 15, 2007 6:27 am
Originally Posted by NM
(Post 7406027)
Sunday departures to Asia and UK are always tight for D availability. They can generally fill business class cabin with J/C sales so restrict the D seats. Probably lots free for Tuesday or Wednesday departures.
I will fly on Monday night but would have prefered to fly on Sunday. Oh well, next time I need to book early.
NM
Mar 15, 2007 8:07 am
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 7406514)
I will fly on Monday night but would have prefered to fly on Sunday. Oh well, next time I need to book early.
But travelling on the Monday may also give you a better shot at an upgrade if you want to spend the points ^ .
qasr
Mar 15, 2007 10:41 am
Originally Posted by number_6
(Post 7401122)
In current usage J and C seem to have become equivalent. Historically C was the standard full fare flexible business class, and J was 10% higher fare for a "premium" product when various airlines introduced first-generation improved business seats (pre-beds). Now some airlines use C, some use J. Cannot remember any airline that uses both J and C; and they seem to be completely equivalent on most airlines. D is usually discounted and refundable/changeable (with a fee) while I is a greater discount but non-refundable and often allowing no changes (not even date!).
SQ uses J & C interchangably. AA uses J for full fare paid Business and C for Business upgrade seats...
kangaroo route
Mar 16, 2007 1:37 am
Originally Posted by og
(Post 7403037)
D is more restrictive in availability (seats on flights and only available on certain dates). C is less restrictive (and more expensive).
I think we can thank QF rev mgmt for this one. QF has introduced C in a big way in the last year and use it for the corporate nett (route deal) fares that used to be in D class (at least on my corp's account). This allows them to reduce or zero out D inventory on popular flights and so restrict availability for DCIR22, DONE4 etc (where they get much less revenue as its multisegment pooled) while not putting their corp customers too far offside (as the corps can still get the same route deal or nett fare , but booked into C)
