QF announces SYD-AKL-JFK

Old Aug 24, 22, 7:24 pm
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QF announces SYD-AKL-JFK

3x weekly SYD-AKL-JFK service will start in June 2023 on the 789. Flights will be numbered QF3/4, which, interestingly, were the old SYD-HNL-SYD flight numbers.

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Old Aug 24, 22, 7:51 pm
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From the source -->https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/
--->QANTAS ANNOUNCES DIRECT AUCKLAND–NEW YORK FLIGHTS AND UPGRADE TO LOUNGES
  • Sydney-Auckland-New York route set for take-off in June 2023.
  • Seamless connections between Australia and New York via New Zealand.
  • New lounges in Auckland, Adelaide, Rockhampton and Port Hedland.
  • Two Sydney-Auckland-New York Points Planes in the first week of flying.
Qantas will recommence flights to New York, with a new service from Australia to the Big Apple via Auckland from 14 June next year*.

The launch of QF3 and QF4 will see the flying kangaroo return to New York three days a week initially, after a three-year COVID-induced hiatus. Flights will be operated by its Boeing 787 Dreamliners, with three new aircraft scheduled for delivery next year.

Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce said flying via Auckland would provide better connectivity from more destinations in Australia, before an uninterrupted 16 hour flight to New York.
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Interesting route. AKL-JFK is about 1000 miles less than SYD-JFK. Coming back is against the prevailing head winds
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Airside transit in AKL is better for those from BNE, MEL, ADL who now endure the T3 Domestic<--->T1 International shuffle
QF close partner, AA have a planned DFW-AKL flight due to start 29 Oct 2022 to 25 Mar 2023(new route)
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A head to head competition against NZ1/2! Amazing.
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Hopefully we'll start to see some decent J prices when QF starts. Currently $17K return on many dates on NZ!
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Old Aug 24, 22, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
Airside transit in AKL is better for those from BNE, MEL, ADL who now endure the T3 Domestic<--->T1 International shuffle
I wonder if we will see QF give ADL-AKL ago again? both QF/JQ have given it ago in the past. Currently only NZ on ADL-AKL with A321NEO's.
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Old Aug 24, 22, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
I wonder if we will see QF give ADL-AKL ago again? both QF/JQ have given it ago in the past. Currently only NZ on ADL-AKL with A321NEO's.
Hopefully yes. But ADL would only feed a few people to the JFK flight.
QF flying PER-AKL would be interesting against NZ. But do not see QF doing that.
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
Hopefully yes. But ADL would only feed a few people to the JFK flight.
QF flying PER-AKL would be interesting against NZ. But do not see QF doing that.
PER maybe once the A321XLR's start to come online?
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Do they have enough baggage handlers for new flights?
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
QF flying PER-AKL would be interesting against NZ. But do not see QF doing that.
Why not? it has operated that route before?
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Old Aug 25, 22, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
I wonder if we will see QF give ADL-AKL ago again? both QF/JQ have given it ago in the past. Currently only NZ on ADL-AKL with A321NEO's.
QR are currently flying from AKL via ADL to DOH on a 777. Flew them AKL-ADL a couple of months ago and they were very good but not sure how long this sector will last before they revert to a direct service.
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
Why not? it has operated that route before?
QF did it seasonally for two years before covid, only in December/January and from memory it was a Saturday and Sunday flight?
At the time NZ was close to operating PER double daily, and had introduced some services to CHC.
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Old Aug 25, 22, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
QF did it seasonally for two years before covid, only in December/January and from memory it was a Saturday and Sunday flight?.
Yes. Day 6 & 7
Air NZ CHC PER was summer only and lasted a short time.
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
PER maybe once the A321XLR's start to come online?
Hopefully yes, probably they will deliver in 2023 or 2024.
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Qantas should add new direct flight from Chicago to Sydney, this will help lot of US and Canadian passengers from east coast.
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Old Aug 28, 22, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by srcsrc
Qantas should add new direct flight from Chicago to Sydney, this will help lot of US and Canadian passengers from east coast.
QF did have a planned-scheduled BNE-ORD flight, that was cancelled due to the pandemic.
SYD-ORD is longer than BNE-ORD. AKL-JFK would have been selected on the basis of length of flight.
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Now is no mention of ORD flights. Agree it would be a good destination. A route I would happily fly.
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