Recent F Experiences
Jul 9, 22, 7:17 am
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Recent F Experiences
In order to have “the total F experiences” required inflight masking has to stop and the F lounges have to be open and fully operational.
Last edited by JetAway; Jul 16, 22 at 9:38 am
Jul 9, 22, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by JetAway
I order to have “the total F experiences” required inflight masking has to stop and the F lounges have to be open and fully operational.
Jul 9, 22, 6:38 pm
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The masking requirement completely escaped me. Unbelievably, no one's talking about it on the usual travel forums. At least not recently.
Is there any discussion or sense the requirement will change in the next 30 days? or unlikely?
How strict is the current enforcement in J and F? For example, is dining on request and leisurely enjoyment of premium beverages? or are the FAs patrolling the cabin, asking folks to mask up between sips and bites?
Is there any discussion or sense the requirement will change in the next 30 days? or unlikely?
How strict is the current enforcement in J and F? For example, is dining on request and leisurely enjoyment of premium beverages? or are the FAs patrolling the cabin, asking folks to mask up between sips and bites?
Jul 13, 22, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by cmtlatitudes
The masking requirement completely escaped me. Unbelievably, no one's talking about it on the usual travel forums. At least not recently.
Is there any discussion or sense the requirement will change in the next 30 days? or unlikely?
How strict is the current enforcement in J and F? For example, is dining on request and leisurely enjoyment of premium beverages? or are the FAs patrolling the cabin, asking folks to mask up between sips and bites?
Is there any discussion or sense the requirement will change in the next 30 days? or unlikely?
How strict is the current enforcement in J and F? For example, is dining on request and leisurely enjoyment of premium beverages? or are the FAs patrolling the cabin, asking folks to mask up between sips and bites?
Flew F SYD-LAX and J DFW-SYD in the past few weeks.
Jul 13, 22, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by ianassum
Princess Fiona
How would you rate the food on the SYD-LAX leg in F?
Menu would be much appreciated
Thanks
Ian
How would you rate the food on the SYD-LAX leg in F?
Menu would be much appreciated
Thanks
Ian
Jul 14, 22, 5:35 am
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Much appreciated. I agree about the tasting menu - ultimately this saves cost too (and crew service time) and reduces the likelihood of multiple wine pairings with the courses
Interestingly more luxury ingredients clearly present on the SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD legs of QF 1 and 2 compared to the SYD-SIN legs as recent menus for these flights on Flyertalk reveal
Compared to SQ, JL,EK,NH,QR,LH AF and LX in long haul F, aside from the miniscule caviar tartlet, this SYD to LAX menu shows standard good J fare (extra marks for green beans that look green) and is clearly sub-industry standard
Qantas clearly has a "lure" which I am also susceptible to that includes our slavish loyalty to FF status and the title of the worlds safest airline (they have dropped to 7 this year)
Not looking forward to my flight back from LAX to SYD in F on QF 12, a surprise for my mother, where recent photos on the website were shocking for F food (I used FF points for her)
Neil Perry food fares much better in the lounge where more money is spent on ingredients (crayfish on the laksa in the F lounge in Singapore)
I am skeptical about the plant based components - they are more cost effective and the actual ingredients used are very surprising for any F offering
Interestingly more luxury ingredients clearly present on the SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD legs of QF 1 and 2 compared to the SYD-SIN legs as recent menus for these flights on Flyertalk reveal
Compared to SQ, JL,EK,NH,QR,LH AF and LX in long haul F, aside from the miniscule caviar tartlet, this SYD to LAX menu shows standard good J fare (extra marks for green beans that look green) and is clearly sub-industry standard
Qantas clearly has a "lure" which I am also susceptible to that includes our slavish loyalty to FF status and the title of the worlds safest airline (they have dropped to 7 this year)
Not looking forward to my flight back from LAX to SYD in F on QF 12, a surprise for my mother, where recent photos on the website were shocking for F food (I used FF points for her)
Neil Perry food fares much better in the lounge where more money is spent on ingredients (crayfish on the laksa in the F lounge in Singapore)
I am skeptical about the plant based components - they are more cost effective and the actual ingredients used are very surprising for any F offering
Jul 16, 22, 5:03 am
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[mod hat] The above posts were originally from the F Lounge LHR/LAX thread. Considering however that they deal with the inflight experience I have moved them into their own little piece of FT. [/mod hat]
Jul 16, 22, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Princess fiona
No IME there are no FA’s patrolling the cabin checking mask compliance.
Flew F SYD-LAX and J DFW-SYD in the past few weeks.
Flew F SYD-LAX and J DFW-SYD in the past few weeks.
Jul 16, 22, 5:02 pm
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current mask status on QF:
AU->US = mask not required (no mask mandate in the US)
US->AU = mask officially required but infrequently enforced (not clear why this one is still in place, because NSW mask mandate clearly states it only applies to domestic flights).
AU->SIN = mask required and enforced (mask mandate in SG)
SIN->LHR = mask not required (no mask mandate in the UK).
LHR->SIN = mask officially required but enforcement varies... crew might go through the motion to make announcements saying masks are required but mostly leave it at that.
The top leg of QF1/2 are exclusively crewed out of the UK cabin crew base so they tend to take the more relaxed UK stance
PER->LHR/FCO do not require masks, though also don’t have P cabin...
From experience crew is pretty relaxed about masks except on SIN and YVR routes
AU->US = mask not required (no mask mandate in the US)
US->AU = mask officially required but infrequently enforced (not clear why this one is still in place, because NSW mask mandate clearly states it only applies to domestic flights).
AU->SIN = mask required and enforced (mask mandate in SG)
SIN->LHR = mask not required (no mask mandate in the UK).
LHR->SIN = mask officially required but enforcement varies... crew might go through the motion to make announcements saying masks are required but mostly leave it at that.
The top leg of QF1/2 are exclusively crewed out of the UK cabin crew base so they tend to take the more relaxed UK stance
PER->LHR/FCO do not require masks, though also don’t have P cabin...
From experience crew is pretty relaxed about masks except on SIN and YVR routes
Last edited by hansyuwiwb; Jul 16, 22 at 5:08 pm
Jul 16, 22, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ianassum
Much appreciated. I agree about the tasting menu - ultimately this saves cost too (and crew service time) and reduces the likelihood of multiple wine pairings with the courses
Interestingly more luxury ingredients clearly present on the SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD legs of QF 1 and 2 compared to the SYD-SIN legs as recent menus for these flights on Flyertalk reveal
Compared to SQ, JL,EK,NH,QR,LH AF and LX in long haul F, aside from the miniscule caviar tartlet, this SYD to LAX menu shows standard good J fare (extra marks for green beans that look green) and is clearly sub-industry standard
Qantas clearly has a "lure" which I am also susceptible to that includes our slavish loyalty to FF status and the title of the worlds safest airline (they have dropped to 7 this year)
Not looking forward to my flight back from LAX to SYD in F on QF 12, a surprise for my mother, where recent photos on the website were shocking for F food (I used FF points for her)
Neil Perry food fares much better in the lounge where more money is spent on ingredients (crayfish on the laksa in the F lounge in Singapore)
I am skeptical about the plant based components - they are more cost effective and the actual ingredients used are very surprising for any F offering
Interestingly more luxury ingredients clearly present on the SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD legs of QF 1 and 2 compared to the SYD-SIN legs as recent menus for these flights on Flyertalk reveal
Compared to SQ, JL,EK,NH,QR,LH AF and LX in long haul F, aside from the miniscule caviar tartlet, this SYD to LAX menu shows standard good J fare (extra marks for green beans that look green) and is clearly sub-industry standard
Qantas clearly has a "lure" which I am also susceptible to that includes our slavish loyalty to FF status and the title of the worlds safest airline (they have dropped to 7 this year)
Not looking forward to my flight back from LAX to SYD in F on QF 12, a surprise for my mother, where recent photos on the website were shocking for F food (I used FF points for her)
Neil Perry food fares much better in the lounge where more money is spent on ingredients (crayfish on the laksa in the F lounge in Singapore)
I am skeptical about the plant based components - they are more cost effective and the actual ingredients used are very surprising for any F offering
Jul 16, 22, 11:10 pm
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Hansyuwiwb
I was aware of that
My comments were more in relation to:
1. The quality of the vegan food and absence of "luxe" ingredients in relation to the F price point and other carriers offerings in international long haul F
2. The use of standard Qantas J class meals in F on a regular basis now, with little to distinguish these two classes in terms of the food like other carriers do
I was aware of that
My comments were more in relation to:
1. The quality of the vegan food and absence of "luxe" ingredients in relation to the F price point and other carriers offerings in international long haul F
2. The use of standard Qantas J class meals in F on a regular basis now, with little to distinguish these two classes in terms of the food like other carriers do
Jul 17, 22, 4:06 am
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Originally Posted by ianassum
Qantas clearly has a "lure" which I am also susceptible to that includes our slavish loyalty to FF status and the title of the worlds safest airline (they have dropped to 7 this year)
Break free of QFF and you will have a far more luxurious and memorable experience. I always say that QF F does not excite me. It is only better than BA F IME.
If you're flying F then loyalty isn't that important as you receive benefits based on Class of Service. Of course, redeeming for QF F is easier for WP and you can request award seats to be released.
Jul 19, 22, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by ianassum
Hansyuwiwb
I was aware of that
My comments were more in relation to:
1. The quality of the vegan food and absence of "luxe" ingredients in relation to the F price point and other carriers offerings in international long haul F
2. The use of standard Qantas J class meals in F on a regular basis now, with little to distinguish these two classes in terms of the food like other carriers do
I was aware of that
My comments were more in relation to:
1. The quality of the vegan food and absence of "luxe" ingredients in relation to the F price point and other carriers offerings in international long haul F
2. The use of standard Qantas J class meals in F on a regular basis now, with little to distinguish these two classes in terms of the food like other carriers do
The difference between the J and F offering is slightly more choices on the F menu and a table cloth in F. That has gone from J and a tray is put on the bare table now.
