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Old May 30, 2022, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
Of course it does. If you want a particular service , it is up to you to make sure that that service is offered before purchasing

It is risible to suggest that service is rubbish or that it is an embarrassment if something that is never claimed to be provided is not provided
Offering a flat bed but no pillow or planket and you say it is not reasonable to expect a pillow or blanket?. You do make me laugh I admit. 🤣 It was also interesting that our flight into Sydney fromr Uluru on the 737 had China cups for tea and coffee etc. To PER from SYD a paper cup! Very classy! All part of the QF biz service ...☹️
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Old May 30, 2022, 1:10 am
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..... our flight into Sydney fromr Uluru on the 737 had China cups for tea and coffee etc. To PER from SYD a paper cup! Very classy! All part of the QF biz service ...☹️
Yes, but clearly your expectations were unreasonable as if you read the T&C's no mention of China cups for tea/coffee was promised for the PER-SYD flight!

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Old May 30, 2022, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
Given that the offering you wanted is not advertised as offered, the issue seems to me , more your expectations being unreasonable than the Qantas service being rubbish

Qantas isn't the only domestic carrier
When they are charging upwards of $2,600 each way - is it really too much to expect a pillow to be made available for a flat bed in business?
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Old May 30, 2022, 3:48 am
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Originally Posted by ANstar
When they are charging upwards of $2,600 each way - is it really too much to expect a pillow to be made available for a flat bed in business?
For Qantas I'm afraid it is.
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Old May 30, 2022, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by ANstar
When they are charging upwards of $2,600 each way - is it really too much to expect a pillow to be made available for a flat bed in business?
It is too much to expect if that is not part of the service offering. If someone was to book their business class ticket by puchasing 20,000 miles from AA for AUD786 , would this make them less entitled to expect a pillow? At what price is a pillow an expected offering?

If the lack of pillow makes it not worth $2600 , then perhaps don't buy it
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Old May 30, 2022, 6:15 am
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[mod hat] Okay, so I think the positions of the main participants in this thread are clear. Please only post if you have something really new and relevant to add here. [/mod hat]
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Old Jun 3, 2022, 4:17 pm
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They definitely used to…

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Old Jun 5, 2022, 3:28 am
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The J service is indeed inherently "rubbish" by not providing at least a pillow and blanket. Not at all unreasonable to expect this considering Qantas is a full service carrier and for the prices paid in J. Just because it's not written does not make it right. It's clearly sub par on Qantas part. The OP isn't asking for Krug and caviar...just a pillow and blanket. The apologists for Qantas on this thread never cease to amaze.
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 7:26 am
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Stick to your guns
Your comments are fair and reasonable
As a P1 I can confirm a massive decline in both onboard service culture and product
It doesn't matter how many launch meals Neil Perry hosts to celebrate the new PER-FCO service (Mozarella salad, pasta and tiramisu were his stunning contributions for fares that could be as high as 10k), Alan Joyce will never be able to alter the service culture aboard Qantas, inconsistent, inconsistent, inconsistent and reliably so.
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Old Jun 19, 2022, 4:22 pm
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I believe that for the last decade, Qantas only offered pillows and blankets (let alone lie flats) due to competition with VA's "Coast to Coast" service .

Below is a post from tom911 showing the seating Qantas were installing for their domestic A330 services before VA leased some 330's and changed "the game" (They actually had some in 2-3-2 configuration). Note the pillows; this was 2010 - they went away soon after but came back and have not reappeared on domestic services since COVID):
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These two photos I took may give a better view of the domestic A330 seat:

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Old Jun 19, 2022, 10:50 pm
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NIVSY
Stick to your guns
Your comments are fair and reasonable
As a P1 I can confirm a massive decline in both onboard service culture and product
It doesn't matter how many launch meals Neil Perry hosts to celebrate the new PER-FCO service (Mozarella salad, pasta and tiramisu were his stunning contributions for fares that could be as high as 10k), Alan Joyce will never be able to alter the service culture aboard Qantas, inconsistent, inconsistent, inconsistent and reliably so.
Thankyou and I intend to. I was blown away recently by booking via Virgin a multicity from SYD-CBR-MEL-ADLSYD all.in business for just over 1000 dollars. Incredible value. Qantas wil only be used mainly when burning BA miles as appropriate. My new Aussie future is with Virgin. 😆
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