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Jetstar to [potentially] have more flights to Queenstown from Australia

Jetstar to [potentially] have more flights to Queenstown from Australia

Old Oct 21, 20, 10:24 pm
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Jetstar to [potentially] have more flights to Queenstown from Australia

Jetstar haven't flown Brisbane to Queenstown before.

As it's just about impossible to get a Qantas classic frequent flyer ticket Brisbane to Queenstown in winter, might mean there are now some Qantas frequent flyer tickets on Jetstar.

They might be taking up slack from Virgin reduced flights Brisbane to Queenstown.
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Old Oct 21, 20, 10:49 pm
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Do you have a source for this?

You've previously posted a lot of speculation (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...1&pp=25&query=) and there are no press releases stating that Jetstar is launching flights to Queenstown from Brisbane.
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Old Oct 21, 20, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86 View Post
Jetstar haven't flown Brisbane to Queenstown before.

As it's just about impossible to get a Qantas classic frequent flyer ticket Brisbane to Queenstown in winter, might mean there are now some Qantas frequent flyer tickets on Jetstar.

They might be taking up slack from Virgin reduced flights Brisbane to Queenstown.
Source?
From what dates?

Queensland is not (yet) in the NZ-AU (one way) quarantine free bubble, so unsure how non stop flights would work.
AU government (16 Oct)---> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/safe-tra...ne-new-zealand
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After offering these arrangements at the latest National Cabinet, we have reached agreement for this first stage of quarantine-free travel with New South Wales and the Northern Territory. We welcome those jurisdictions’ commitment to reopening Australia to the world.
<snip>
South Australia have now joined the quarantine free bubble

NZ does not (yet) accept the "quarantine free" on arrival concept.
So need to spend 14 days in isolation, Cost can be ~$3000 depending the individual situation.
NZ Government web site does not list any Queenstown MIQ hotels.
Link--->https://www.miq.govt.nz/being-in-man...ity-locations/
But as a guess would be hotels that may be suitable. But that would mean no local guests.

Edit
JQ used to fly OOL-ZQN
JQ are selling seats for AKL-ZQN
https://www.queenstownairport.co.nz/...nd-events/news
https://www.queenstownairport.co.nz/...rlines/jetstar

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Old Oct 21, 20, 11:17 pm
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Yeah not happening under current arrangements due to the need for government to take over multiple hotels for quarantine and managed isolation.

BTW JQ also has WLG-ZQN.
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Old Oct 21, 20, 11:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi View Post
Source?
From what dates?

Queensland is not (yet) in the NZ-AU (one way) quarantine free bubble, so unsure how non stop flights would work.
AU government (16 Oct)---> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/safe-tra...ne-new-zealand

South Australia have now joined the quarantine free bubble

NZ does not (yet) accept the "quarantine free" on arrival concept.
So need to spend 14 days in isolation, Cost can be ~$3000 depending the individual situation.
NZ Government web site does not list any Queenstown MIQ hotels.
Link--->https://www.miq.govt.nz/being-in-man...ity-locations/
But as a guess would be hotels that may be suitable. But that would mean no local guests.

Edit
JQ used to fly OOL-ZQN
JQ are selling seats for AKL-ZQN
https://www.queenstownairport.co.nz/...nd-events/news
https://www.queenstownairport.co.nz/...rlines/jetstar
winter, not now.

Spoke to a snow holiday operator in Sydney, who said fares right now to Queenstown are high (less flights, plenty of people with credits to use), but with Jetstar starting to fly Bris/Queenstown, there should be some cheaper options, if a little bit day of week flexible. Not sure how late you can land & take off from Queenstown, but do recall some flights departing after 9pm, since daytime curfew relaxed.
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Old Oct 21, 20, 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer View Post
Yeah not happening under current arrangements due to the need for government to take over multiple hotels for quarantine and managed isolation.

BTW JQ also has WLG-ZQN.
WINTER !!!

Not tomorrow.
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Old Oct 21, 20, 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86 View Post
winter, not now.

Spoke to a snow holiday operator in Sydney, who said fares right now to Queenstown are high (less flights, plenty of people with credits to use), but with Jetstar starting to fly Bris/Queenstown, there should be some cheaper options, if a little bit day of week flexible. Not sure how late you can land & take off from Queenstown, but do recall some flights departing after 9pm, since daytime curfew relaxed.
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WINTER !!!

Not tomorrow.
In these Covid-19 times airlines advertising seats/routes and selling seats is not the same as flying a route. Some are very optimistic
Can you please link the Jetstar announcement for this route??
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Old Oct 22, 20, 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi View Post
In these Covid-19 times airlines advertising seats/routes and selling seats is not the same as flying a route. Some are very optimistic
Can you please link the Jetstar announcement for this route??
What jetstar annoucement ? It came from a Sydney snow holiday operator, who would probably know because they would have been asked.

We're talking 8 months away, not tomorrow.

There will be many flights to NZ. NZ needs tourists more than Australia & we are desperate for them, from anywhere. Both economies are stuffed without large scale tourism returning ASAP.
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Old Oct 22, 20, 1:41 am
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So - basically, this whole thread was clickbait then?

There is no actual suggestion by the airline that it will have more flights from AU to ZQN, but just speculation by a 3rd party?
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Old Oct 22, 20, 2:24 am
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So - basically, this whole thread was clickbait then?

There is no actual suggestion by the airline that it will have more flights from AU to ZQN, but just speculation by a 3rd party?
not really

1stly airlines go to tour operators to see if they can sell their seats, offering all sorts of incentives for a new route. Most of seats to places like queenstown in winter sold by agents not online.
2ndly, there are probably 1000s who were booked this year, but couldn't go, who are rolling over their flights until next year & if qantas passengers, jetstar is not ideal but will suffice.
3rdly, virgin are probably not doing as many flights per week.

Makes perfect sense. The catch might be getting accommodation in Queenstown.
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Old Oct 22, 20, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer View Post
Yeah not happening under current arrangements due to the need for government to take over multiple hotels for quarantine and managed isolation.

BTW JQ also has WLG-ZQN.
Queenstown also lacks an proper hospital, it only has an small base hospital. Hence Queenstown was already ruled out for any MIQ Hotels very early on, any people that needed medical attention with COVID would need to be airlifted out...

Also while JQ does fly to ZQN, itís not an budget destination. Not very much within the main market for JQ,
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Old Oct 22, 20, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86 View Post
not really
The thread title states "Jetstar to have more flights to Queenstown from Australia" - a statement of fact, not that it is speculation based on a talk to a travel agent

There was nothing in the post itself to indicate this is speculative

Even after the 1st replies querying the accuracy, there was nothing to update that it wasnt an official statement

Only the 3rd reply was it admitted that this was just some speculation from a travel agent

The forum rules state "Please create thread titles that are specific and descriptive and that contain an accurate (not misleading or sensational) characterization of the topic"
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Old Oct 22, 20, 6:46 pm
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[mod hat] I have edited the thread title but will ask everyone to remain on topic which is the possibility of JQ flights between Brisbane and Queenstown. [/mod hat]
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Old Oct 27, 20, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
The thread title states "Jetstar to have more flights to Queenstown from Australia" - a statement of fact, not that it is speculation based on a talk to a travel agent

There was nothing in the post itself to indicate this is speculative

Even after the 1st replies querying the accuracy, there was nothing to update that it wasnt an official statement

Only the 3rd reply was it admitted that this was just some speculation from a travel agent

The forum rules state "Please create thread titles that are specific and descriptive and that contain an accurate (not misleading or sensational) characterization of the topic"
official statements would come after agents/wholesalers would be contacted, offered deals to see if they would buy & sell them.

Often with new routes, agents/wholesalers get the deal from hell, if they actually commit to buy a certain number of seats/or hand over the cash up front, often at prices that are at a loss, on the basis, they must package up with a minimum sell price. Seen it happen many times.
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Old Oct 28, 20, 2:10 am
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You once again posted speculation as fact - until a moderator fixed the thread title it was pure click bait leading to misrepresentation of the situation
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