Qantas will suspend overseas travel until [December] 2021
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Clearly the * should lead you to the “fine print” in the advertisement. Not doing so carries the same scorn from literary pedants as the misuse of the apostrophe. I can only assume that the potential use of *^+# etc is a hangover from censorship where common mainstream words (such as ****, %#^* and ^%+) are considered too strong for those not living in Oz.
no more of a dig at qantas’s website and extensive t&cs on every page- I see they’ve done the sensible thing and replaced with numbers but once upon a time all of the above points would have had a symbol- *, ^, % and so on
hence I am amused by a Qantas thing having JUST a star ie only one disclaimer attached
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hence I am amused by a Qantas thing having JUST a star ie only one disclaimer attached[/QUOTE]
And QF absolutely should still explain why the * is there - even simply as “subject to T&C on the QF website” or whatever.
hence I am amused by a Qantas thing having JUST a star ie only one disclaimer attached[/QUOTE]
And QF absolutely should still explain why the * is there - even simply as “subject to T&C on the QF website” or whatever.
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29 Oct (ExecTrav)-->Qantas pushes back Melbourne-London, Brisbane-USA flights
Western Australia not mentioned.
The ongoing pandemaic around the world will put some people off travelling and "wait and see" for others.
Would assume most is VFR (visiting friends & relations). For Christmas-New Year (late Dec - early Jan) will be more traffic
The chances of the QLD 16+ eligible population reaching 90% vaccination is low to nil. Late Jan, when nil international and few interstate visitors, expect they will back peddle on the 90%.
Soft demand and ongoing border closures puts a spoke in the wheel of Qantas' international reboot.
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Melbourne-London
While Qantas was quick to bring forward its Melbourne-London flights to November 6, following Victoria's move to abandon hotel and home quarantine for fully-vaccinated travellers, the airline says "demand for these earlier flights has been subdued."
"This situation is short-lived, as demand on this route from late November onwards is much stronger," Qantas claims, "leading to the decision for the restart date to be delayed from 6 November to 27 November 2021."
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Brisbane restart bumped to 2022
As previously reported, Queensland won't allow quarantine-free international travel until early 2022, when it reaches a statewide 90% vaccination rate – as opposed to the original 80% benchmark, which New South Wales and Victoria held to. This has left Qantas with no choice but to hit the pause button on overseas flights from Brisbane.Flights to other international destinations from Queensland will resume progressively in the months following, the airline says.
New Zealand closed until at least January 2022
Hopes of trans-Tasman travel returning in December were also dashed earlier today when NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said that hotel quarantine and limits on the number of arrivals will continue for people travelling from Australia. This will see Qantas and Jetstar push back flights from Sydney and Melbourne to at least January 3, 2022. "These dates could be pushed later should these restrictions remain," the airline adds. "Qantas and Jetstar are ready to ramp up flights when people can travel freely between Australia and New Zealand again."
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- Melbourne-London flights delayed to November 27
- Brisbane flights to LA and Singapore pushed back to February 2022
- Australia-New Zealand to remain closed until January 2022
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Melbourne-London
While Qantas was quick to bring forward its Melbourne-London flights to November 6, following Victoria's move to abandon hotel and home quarantine for fully-vaccinated travellers, the airline says "demand for these earlier flights has been subdued."
"This situation is short-lived, as demand on this route from late November onwards is much stronger," Qantas claims, "leading to the decision for the restart date to be delayed from 6 November to 27 November 2021."
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Brisbane restart bumped to 2022
As previously reported, Queensland won't allow quarantine-free international travel until early 2022, when it reaches a statewide 90% vaccination rate – as opposed to the original 80% benchmark, which New South Wales and Victoria held to. This has left Qantas with no choice but to hit the pause button on overseas flights from Brisbane.Flights to other international destinations from Queensland will resume progressively in the months following, the airline says.
New Zealand closed until at least January 2022
Hopes of trans-Tasman travel returning in December were also dashed earlier today when NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said that hotel quarantine and limits on the number of arrivals will continue for people travelling from Australia. This will see Qantas and Jetstar push back flights from Sydney and Melbourne to at least January 3, 2022. "These dates could be pushed later should these restrictions remain," the airline adds. "Qantas and Jetstar are ready to ramp up flights when people can travel freely between Australia and New Zealand again."
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The ongoing pandemaic around the world will put some people off travelling and "wait and see" for others.
Would assume most is VFR (visiting friends & relations). For Christmas-New Year (late Dec - early Jan) will be more traffic
The chances of the QLD 16+ eligible population reaching 90% vaccination is low to nil. Late Jan, when nil international and few interstate visitors, expect they will back peddle on the 90%.
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Oct 30, 2021 at 2:18 pm
#396
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It’s challenging, at this stage we are still expecting to have to quarantine for 2 weeks before coming back to work (even though the chief said not- understandably the land councils may choose to take a more conservative approach for a sustained period of time). But no extra leave. And hence I can’t imagine planning for an overseas trip for at least a couple of years
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29 Oct (ExecTrav)-->Qantas pushes back Melbourne-London, Brisbane-USA flights
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Re the Brisbane flights: QF is selling Q2/22 flights at the moment. I'm looking to come via SIN with BA connecting. While looking at what covid requirements transiting at SIN may have I saw something that said only permitted airline transfers can take place. BA/QF isn't currently one of them. Is this another case of buyer beware? Or just fingers crossed that SIN will allow the transfers and QLD will be open by then?
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/coronav...e-flights.html
So the route and airlines are fine, now it's just the "other" factors to wait and see about like will Anna open the borders and will the new southern African variant close everything again.
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I'm assuming that all these flights into Australia are carrying pax that have been PCR-tested for Covid. If so, why are we seeing so many pax testing positive on arrival?
Taken together, whats the point of testing prior to travel?
Taken together, whats the point of testing prior to travel?
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very easy to become positive from negative in almost 4 days
as to the point, I suppose it screens out around 50% of positive cases (given the natural history of COVID replication cycles etc). I suppose what we should do is do a rapid test at the airport prior to departure (ie within 3-4 hours of boarding) but the logistics of that would be horrific
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I'm looking to come via SIN with BA connecting. While looking at what covid requirements transiting at SIN may have I saw something that said only permitted airline transfers can take place. BA/QF isn't currently one of them. Is this another case of buyer beware? Or just fingers crossed that SIN will allow the transfers and QLD will be open by then?
Regards,
BD
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The tin hat in me whispers in my ear that such results are more than one or two standard deviations outside the normal probability.😈 (Implication being it is likely some test results are faked.)
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there is an issue around false positives and pre test probability but I don’t expect this would be a significant issue coming from relatively high covid places
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27 Dec 2021 (ExecTrav AU)---->Qantas Airbus A380s return to Sydney-LAX on January 11
Some states again continue to restrict the opening of AU
Qantas is bringing forward the return of the A380 to January 2022, with the first superjumbo now just weeks away from flying between Sydney and Los Angeles.Starting Tuesday January 11, the double-decker jet will feature three days a week on the flagship route, alongside one weekly Boeing 787 service – marking an overall reduction from the previously-scheduled daily timetable.
The airline says this is due to the need for its 70-odd Brisbane-based Boeing 787 pilots to undergo 14 days isolation after each international service, which means they can't be rostered onto other international flights until they leave quarantine. Crew based in most other states are not subject to these limitations.
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In addition, the airline says the A380's 14 first class suites "will be offered as complimentary upgrades to top tier Frequent Flyers who have booked business class seats" on the dropped Boeing 787 flights.
International Boeing 787 flights from Melbourne are also being reduced during January, again due to the need for Brisbane-based pilots to quarantine for two weeks. Melbourne-London is being reduced from daily Boeing 787 flights "to up to four weekly services", while Melbourne-Los Angeles drops from four Boeing 787 flights per week to three.
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The airline says this is due to the need for its 70-odd Brisbane-based Boeing 787 pilots to undergo 14 days isolation after each international service, which means they can't be rostered onto other international flights until they leave quarantine. Crew based in most other states are not subject to these limitations.
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In addition, the airline says the A380's 14 first class suites "will be offered as complimentary upgrades to top tier Frequent Flyers who have booked business class seats" on the dropped Boeing 787 flights.
International Boeing 787 flights from Melbourne are also being reduced during January, again due to the need for Brisbane-based pilots to quarantine for two weeks. Melbourne-London is being reduced from daily Boeing 787 flights "to up to four weekly services", while Melbourne-Los Angeles drops from four Boeing 787 flights per week to three.
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[mod hat] I have moved some post which deal with testing before your QF flight to a dedicated thread. [/mod hat]