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Old Jan 4, 2021, 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by BD1959
Other carriers have been flying SYD/LAX for a while - it hasn't encouraged QF to start to this point.

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apart from a few repat flights & freight runs don't think NZ or FJ have been flying to USA. They both look like starting in late March or early April. Do you seriously think Qantas are going to let all the airlines that will be flying to LAX when borders open 18 March, to get all the market share ? Pent up demand is growing by the day, as many realise we are being conned.
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Old Jan 4, 2021, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by HB7
Fair enough. I think however the OP was trying to highlight the fact that the chance of QF operating those flight is near on impossible.

In your opinion, what are the chances QF operates these flights - particularly to the UK/US?
The OP was clearly implying that the airline would not provide a refund on a cancelled service - whether the flights will operate will depend on how things develop
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:11 am
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Originally Posted by robertr
Hi All,
I thought that I might resurrect this post, note that the first flight is July 1 QF11 SYD-LAX
Any chance that this flight will take place or should I look at ditching Qantas and replacing it with United
* this is a booking from August 2020 as the original itinerary was July 2020 then Sept 2020 (both did not eventuate)
There is a significant risk that flight won't operate. As an Australian residing in Australia you also need the government to change the rules to allow Australians to leave, or to get an exemption. Not impossible but I also wouldn't count on it happening in that time frame.

If your booking was late 2021 or 2022 there would be a higher chance (given Australia should have rolled out the vaccine by then, allowing the travel restrictions to be eased).
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
There is a significant risk that flight won't operate. As an Australian residing in Australia you also need the government to change the rules to allow Australians to leave, or to get an exemption. Not impossible but I also wouldn't count on it happening in that time frame.

If your booking was late 2021 or 2022 there would be a higher chance (given Australia should have rolled out the vaccine by then, allowing the travel restrictions to be eased).
Yes 7k x 2 tickets with this booking originally for travel June 2000 then Sept 2000 then July 2001 ITrust my travel agent will be around as airlines like Lufthansa don't deal with passengers directly if booked through a travel agent, surely I have some recourse if things go pear shaped once more
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:25 am
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Not sure the idea that "many will realise we were being conned" is accurate, relevant, or likely to impact the possibility of an RTW running in July. It's *possible* and maybe even likely that QF will be operating flights to the US by then, but nobody can say for sure that it's 100%.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
There is a significant risk that flight won't operate. As an Australian residing in Australia you also need the government to change the rules to allow Australians to leave, or to get an exemption. Not impossible but I also wouldn't count on it happening in that time frame.

If your booking was late 2021 or 2022 there would be a higher chance (given Australia should have rolled out the vaccine by then, allowing the travel restrictions to be eased).
kiwi flyer, do you just make up this stuff ?

Plenty of Australians departing right now with exemptions. Borders are officially closed til 17 March 2021. That's 2 1/2 months away. I'm leaving April 2021 if I can.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86
apart from a few repat flights & freight runs don't think NZ or FJ have been flying to USA. They both look like starting in late March or early April. Do you seriously think Qantas are going to let all the airlines that will be flying to LAX when borders open 18 March, to get all the market share ? Pent up demand is growing by the day, as many realise we are being conned.
Air NZ have never stopped flying scheduled passenger flights NZ<---->USA. No restrictions on NZ citizens leaving NZ. Link--->https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/trav...2LxJlTgnojABxF
UA have never stopped flying scheduled passenger flights USA<---->AU.
DL & AA (QF code share) are now flying scheduled passenger flights USA<--->AA
QF have chosen not to fly long haul international scheduled flights.

Main thread --> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ocea...l#post32939181

To me 99.9% probability the Heath Minister's emergency declaration will be extended (as has been done before)
https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/...y-three-months

Edit
Most of today's posts more relevant to the new QF thread
QF now selling international flights
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:55 am
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And now the Federal Govt has criticised QF for opening these bookings without consulting them.

I wouldn't be providing QF with an interest-free loan right now!

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Old Jan 5, 2021, 12:58 am
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86
apart from a few repat flights & freight runs don't think NZ or FJ have been flying to USA. They both look like starting in late March or early April. Do you seriously think Qantas are going to let all the airlines that will be flying to LAX when borders open 18 March, to get all the market share ? Pent up demand is growing by the day, as many realise we are being conned.
Have a look at the SYD airport arrivals page for today: Delta, AA and UA (x2) all flew in this morning ...

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Old Jan 5, 2021, 1:26 am
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[mod hat] I am merging this thread with the main one in regards to Qantas international travel during / after the pandemic. [/mod hat]
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:07 am
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Risky move by Qantas and I cant see international flights resuming whilst internal borders open and close at a whim. We cant even get a bubble with NZ up and running and if you listened to the "experts" last year that bubble was going to be up and running by July 2020.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by ANstar
Risky move by Qantas and I cant see international flights resuming whilst internal borders open and close at a whim. We cant even get a bubble with NZ up and running and if you listened to the "experts" last year that bubble was going to be up and running by July 2020.

Mate we don't even have a SYD-MEL bubble!

For those taking this move as gospel, it's clear that the border closures haven't interrupted the supply of LSD coming into the country...
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86
kiwi flyer, do you just make up this stuff ?

Plenty of Australians departing right now with exemptions. Borders are officially closed til 17 March 2021. That's 2 1/2 months away. I'm leaving April 2021 if I can.
The borders are 'officially' closed till 17 March 2021 and will likely be extended. And there aren't 'plenty' of Australians leaving. From March to Dec 2020 only 95,000 Australians were granted exemptions to leave. The number of Australians stuck outside of Australia is actually growing and it is about 40,000 right now: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...demic/12962746.

When you actually look at the official numbers, provided by the Australian government, https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...t_traffic_data, outbound passengers from March to Oct 2020 are 8% of those from March to Oct 2019.

To add to the unlikeliness of Qantas running these flights, the Australian government came out and had scolded Qantas for doing this. Obviously they will have a huge say in how many people get in and out of the country.

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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by HB7
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To add to the unlikeliness of Qantas running these flights, the Australian government came out and had scolded Qantas for doing this. Obviously they will have a huge say in how many people get in and out of the country.
This sort of pressure from both QF and pax with tickets is about the only thing that is getting the Feds to move on policy.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:40 am
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Originally Posted by OZFLYER86
kiwi flyer, do you just make up this stuff ?

Plenty of Australians departing right now with exemptions. Borders are officially closed til 17 March 2021. That's 2 1/2 months away. I'm leaving April 2021 if I can.
I would take Kiwi Flyer's assessment over yours - I doubt very much that the border closure will end in April
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