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[Project] Sunrise aircraft may be 77Ls ? [Confirmed: A350]

[Project] Sunrise aircraft may be 77Ls ? [Confirmed: A350]

Old Dec 14, 2019, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Efrem
CNN's take on the decision to pick Airbus ..........
Too bad that CNN didn’t check the details of the photo. The aircraft is quoted as a 350 but is in fact a 330 NEO - as is painted on it’s side.
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Old Dec 15, 2019, 2:11 pm
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Personally I think these will in fact be A380 replacements rather than PS aircraft because I do not believe PS is an commercially viable business case.
A350-1000 are not the biggest sellers and some orders have been converted into A350-900 by other airlines all ready. Maybe QF wants to lock in a good price now and later defer the aircraft when the A380 comes up for replacement in the next 8-10 years. I also wonder if the A350-1000 is too big a stretch and like the A340-600 required additional reinforcing/weight for the fuselage.
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Old Dec 15, 2019, 4:17 pm
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If it was A380 replacement they'd want a bigger aircraft - so the 777-9X, or the mooted 350 stretch (variously referred to as the 1100/2000)

Going direct is the objective and has been for 10+ years.
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Old Dec 15, 2019, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Blackcloud
Personally I think these will in fact be A380 replacements rather than PS aircraft because I do not believe PS is an commercially viable business case.
A350-1000 are not the biggest sellers and some orders have been converted into A350-900 by other airlines all ready. Maybe QF wants to lock in a good price now and later defer the aircraft when the A380 comes up for replacement in the next 8-10 years. I also wonder if the A350-1000 is too big a stretch and like the A340-600 required additional reinforcing/weight for the fuselage.
I'd be happy on an A350. I've only flown them a few times, but they're very comfortable planes.
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Old Dec 17, 2019, 8:24 pm
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So it's now only up to the pilots to agree to a negotiated set of criteria - according to the SMH today. I really wonder if QF are hoping the pilots say "no" so QF can pull out of Sunrise and have someone else to blame?

https://www.traveller.com.au/qantas-...evealed-h1kgr8
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Old Dec 17, 2019, 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by og
So it's now only up to the pilots to agree to a negotiated set of criteria - according to the SMH today. I really wonder if QF are hoping the pilots say "no" so QF can pull out of Sunrise and have someone else to blame?

https://www.traveller.com.au/qantas-...evealed-h1kgr8
it’s a useful soundbite for the press when mainline’s EBA negotiations stall. We can almost write the headline now- “Greedy pilots ruining it for everyone shock”

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Old Dec 17, 2019, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by nancypants
it’s a useful soundbite for the press when mainline’s EBA negotiations stall. We can almost write the headline now- “Greedy pilots ruining it for everyone shock”
Some may also say there are 24M reasons why this action is being taken.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 12:47 am
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Occasionally, I'll check Google to get a rough idea of schedules. On the Google homepage, I might search "LHR SYD flights".

I just did. The default date was January 20. There is a LHR-SYD NONSTOP!?!?! It's QF2 0835-0610+2

Is this an error?
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf
Occasionally, I'll check Google to get a rough idea of schedules. On the Google homepage, I might search "LHR SYD flights".

I just did. The default date was January 20. There is a LHR-SYD NONSTOP!?!?! It's QF2 0835-0610+2

Is this an error?
QF2 LHR-SYD has times 2035-0610+2. Are you mistaking the 12 hr clock with the 24 hr clock?
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 3:12 am
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I searched it earlier and it came up 20.35-0610 +2, 1 stop but “direct”
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 9:22 pm
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I checked it again and it must have been a computer error. I saw the words "Nonstop" before but now I see "1 stop". Google error. I'm certain that I saw the words "Nonstop" because I was convinced it was an error.
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Old May 1, 2022, 5:28 pm
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As expected (from post 14), after a 2 year pandemic hiatus
QF newsroom (02 May 2022)-->QANTAS ANNOUNCES PROJECT SUNRISE AIRCRAFT ORDER FOR NON-STOP FLIGHTS TO AUSTRALIA

Australia’s national carrier has today confirmed an order for 12 Airbus A350-1000s to conquer the final frontier of long-haul travel and enable non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to cities including New York and London from late 2025.
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Customers onboard Qantas’ new fleet of A350 aircraft will be treated to luxurious First Class suites with a separate bed, recliner lounge chair and personal wardrobe; a next-generation Business suite; a new Premium Economy seat pitched at 40 inches, a new Economy seat pitched at 33 inches; and a dedicated Wellbeing Zone designed for movement, stretching and hydration. It has a total seat count of 238, the lowest compared with any other A350-1000 currently in service.
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“The Australian national carrier also announced the renewal of its narrow body jets as part of Project Winton with firm orders for 20 Airbus A321XLRs and 20 A220-300s as its Boeing 737s and 717s are gradually retired.
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Old May 1, 2022, 9:52 pm
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QF Announces Non-Stop Flights to NYC/London Will Begin 2025

From the BBC:

Qantas has announced it will begin operating non-stop flights from Sydney to London and New York from 2025.

Australia's national carrier said it had purchased a new fleet of Airbus A350-1000 jets capable of direct flights to any city in the world.

The first Sydney-London flights will depart in late 2025 and take about 20 hours, making them the world's longest passenger flights.
Pretty cool stuff. Here's hoping that this won't be delayed -- 2025 isn't so far away!
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Old May 1, 2022, 9:57 pm
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[Project] Sunrise aircraft may be 77Ls ? [Confirmed: A350]

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Old May 1, 2022, 9:58 pm
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One thing I do really hope is that Qantas ensures the Airtbus A350-1000's provide a significantly better economy seating arrangement than the 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft.
I've been unfortunate enough to have requested my usual of an economy aisle seat on one of their earlier MEL - PER runs. And as a long time platinum member they gave me the 'best' seating they could.
And that was the worst economy seat I have ever flown on - domestically or internationally. The aisle was so narrow that every person and every trolley that came down knocked my shoulder. I felt for the crew, as it was genuinely awkward for them.
Knowing Qantas was looking at them as the go to aircraft for that leg, honestly had me looking at other airlines to get to Perth after that flight.
And their artist mockup scares me as it has the same 3x3 config in economy as the 787-9. Hopefully the extra 13cm width the A350-1000 cabin has is enough width to place those seats comfortably across the cabin
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