Brace for Enhancement [changes from 20 Jun 2019]
Jun 19, 2019, 6:44 pm
#17
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Jun 19, 2019, 7:04 pm
#20
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QF web site news release-->https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...gram-overhaul/
(red by me)
Edit
Business MEL to LAX return
Was 192,000 points & $943.
Now 216,800 points & $703.
Increase 24,800 & $240 less in fees (13% increase in QF points. And there are better business class seats on that route with other airlines)
Some interesting snippets of the QF frequent spender program (from linked downloadable QF pdf, so unverified)
<snip>
The major initiatives, to be rolled out to members over the next 12 months, include:
The major initiatives, to be rolled out to members over the next 12 months, include:
- Adding more than 1 million extra reward seats available annually on Qantas and new partner airlines.
- Slashing carrier charges – the additional costs associated with flights booked with Points – by up to 50 per cent on international bookings[i] (opens in new window), saving members on average $200 per return journey.
- Changing the points required for reward seats on domestic and international flights including an up to 10 per cent reduction in the number of points required for international economy Classic Reward seats.
- Increasing the points required for upgrades and Classic Reward seats in premium cabins to better reflect the value of this premium experience.
- Creating a new tiered Points Club program to better reward members who earn most of their points through on-the-ground transactions.
- Introducing Lifetime Platinum status, the ultimate recognition for the airline’s most loyal flyers.
Edit
Business MEL to LAX return
Was 192,000 points & $943.
Now 216,800 points & $703.
Increase 24,800 & $240 less in fees (13% increase in QF points. And there are better business class seats on that route with other airlines)
Some interesting snippets of the QF frequent spender program (from linked downloadable QF pdf, so unverified)
- Two-thirds of all points earned are generated by on the ground transactions
- 35% of all credit card spend in Australia is on a Qantas or Qantas Frequent Flyer co-branded credit card
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Jun 19, 2019 at 7:28 pm
Jun 19, 2019, 7:29 pm
#22
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So far the only thing missing in this major change announcement is the announcement of any major changes
Putting business award prices up even further out of making scheme of any value
a reduction in economy awards
a new lifetime platinum status
how are these at all major
Also, how can it claim to be increasing award availability on partners - the partners set their award availability
except that Qantas is ridiculously priced already
Today's question - in which ways is it more exclusive
Anyone can get Lifetime Platinum by wasting enough money crediting to the Qantas Scheme but they may still never be able to get Chairman's lounge membership
Anyone that has Chairman's lounge membership is capable of attaining lifetime platinum
Cannot see that it is more exclusive in any way
Putting business award prices up even further out of making scheme of any value
a reduction in economy awards
a new lifetime platinum status
how are these at all major
Also, how can it claim to be increasing award availability on partners - the partners set their award availability
Originally Posted by smh
A new lifetime membership will be available to flyers who earn 75,000 status credits, called Lifetime Platinum, which will launch in September. The threshold will be more than five times the amount of credits required for Lifetime Gold.
"In some ways, it's more exclusive than the Chairman's Lounge," said Qantas Loyalty CEO Olivia Wirth.
"In some ways, it's more exclusive than the Chairman's Lounge," said Qantas Loyalty CEO Olivia Wirth.
Anyone can get Lifetime Platinum by wasting enough money crediting to the Qantas Scheme but they may still never be able to get Chairman's lounge membership
Anyone that has Chairman's lounge membership is capable of attaining lifetime platinum
Cannot see that it is more exclusive in any way
Last edited by Dave Noble; Jun 19, 2019 at 7:39 pm
Jun 19, 2019, 9:20 pm
#24
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Jun 19, 2019, 9:22 pm
#25
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Ok - if you are aiming for Lifetime Platinum Status - on my calculations you would have to spend - If you travel this much you probably mainly travel on flex fares, and at an approx. price of $20/status credit, that means you would need to spend around AUD$1,500,000 to get lifetime platinum. Let’s say you earnt that over the 32 years of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program, that would require spending an average of around AUD$47,000 per year on Qantas and partner, status earning travel. That’s a lot. Here is an article on how I worked out what a status credit costs - travel over to 2paxfly com and search for 'qantas status credit cost'
Jun 19, 2019, 11:32 pm
#26
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There may be more seats that a person can book , but Qantas has not added the reward seats on partner airlines
Jun 20, 2019, 12:32 am
#27
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More availability of award seats on partner airlines is the end result, which was what they claimed after all, if you choose to read it as Qantas making more seats available by themselves, then so be it, your welcome to your narrow intereptations!
Jun 20, 2019, 3:09 am
#29
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from website i says domestic upgrades are not confirmed until 3day prior... i thought this.was instant if available... is this the sort of enhancement where inconvenient truth does not get mentioned with bunch of useless changes being marketed with so nuch hype?
Jun 20, 2019, 3:34 pm
#30
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LT WP was always something I had hoped would come one day and I told myself I would move more of my business to QF when this happens. Now if you just qualify for Platinum every year you need 50+ years to get lifetime WP. This really now becomes a problem of your lifetime. Even as a Platinum One you need 20 years to get there. This is insane. 7000 for lifetime silver, 14000 for LT SG, maybe 28000 for lifetime WP would have been sensible but 75000 is just crazy. Would somebody know how this compares to lifetime gold (OW Emerald) on BA?
