QF cancels remaining A380 order

Old Feb 6, 19, 7:47 pm
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QF cancels remaining A380 order

As expected, the 380 orders beyond the current 12 are no more.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...07-p50w95.html

Now the questions remain on whether there will be more 789s or any “project sunrise” orders - or nothing at all.
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Old Feb 6, 19, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by og View Post
As expected, the 380 orders beyond the current 12 are no more.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...07-p50w95.html

Now the questions remain on whether there will be more 789s or any “project sunrise” orders - or nothing at all.
As you say, it was expected. It looks like the A380 will only be available on a limited number of airlines and routes. I, for one, will be sad to see them go.
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Originally Posted by og View Post
Now the questions remain on whether there will be more 789s or any “project sunrise” orders - or nothing at all.
AJ hasn't ordered very much in his time there...
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Old Feb 8, 19, 4:48 pm
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Dixon had left him with a fairly full order book for mainline - 747ERs, 380s, 330s, 787s and the remainder of the 737 order.

AJ did place the big 320 order in 2011, most of which are still to be delivered having been deferred in 2014 and mostly converted to Neo's (and includes a lot of options)
https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/media-releases/aug-2011/5158a/global/en
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-group-strategy-update-2/
And AJ has formed up 787 options.

Before he goes I suspect QF will have ordered Sunrise aircraft (777-9 or 350-1000) , MOM 797s and possibly some A220s for regional ops.
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Old Feb 9, 19, 10:16 pm
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Originally Posted by moa999 View Post
Dixon had left him with a fairly full order book for mainline - 747ERs, 380s, 330s, 787s and the remainder of the 737 order.

AJ did place the big 320 order in 2011, most of which are still to be delivered having been deferred in 2014 and mostly converted to Neo's (and includes a lot of options)
https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlin...158a/global/en
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...tegy-update-2/
And AJ has formed up 787 options.

Before he goes I suspect QF will have ordered Sunrise aircraft (777-9 or 350-1000) , MOM 797s and possibly some A220s for regional ops.
In that case, his successor is going to have some issues...
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The a320 order is rumoured to be something of a millstone for them, it being originally required to establish RedQ/qantasia, the subsidiary that was shelved
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I don't know anything about airplane orders and how payments take place, but I wonder if there was some agreement during the cancellation that Qantas would swap their A380 orders for another plane to be announced at an airshow --- pulling out large orders at the airshows was something John Leahy used to love to do
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Maybe Airbus offered a penalty free cancellation considering how delayed the A380 initial deliveries were, which QF mentioned at the time that the maximum penalties were applied but were still insufficient to cover the cost of the delays, and wanting to keep in QF good graces as they do need to replace the A330 and A380 eventually and I do not think the 787s will fulfill all that capacity.
But for me it is a sad day as I love the A380 as a passenger and QF will be retiring my favourite type 747 next year too.
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Originally Posted by nancypants View Post
The a320 order is rumoured to be something of a millstone for them, it being originally required to establish RedQ/qantasia, the subsidiary that was shelved
Think they may have been for Jetstar HK.
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Originally Posted by Blackcloud View Post
Maybe Airbus offered a penalty free cancellation considering how delayed the A380 initial deliveries were, which QF mentioned at the time that the maximum penalties were applied but were still insufficient to cover the cost of the delays, and wanting to keep in QF good graces as they do need to replace the A330 and A380 eventually and I do not think the 787s will fulfill all that capacity.
But for me it is a sad day as I love the A380 as a passenger and QF will be retiring my favourite type 747 next year too.
Maybe, but I've also heard that Airbus pressured QF to make up their mind on what they were going to do with the A380s.
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Old Feb 10, 19, 9:24 pm
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Think they may have been for Jetstar HK.
one of those boondoggles

(apparently JM accounts for 9 of the a320 orders, none of which were delivered but a total of 7 have been sold on, 2 remain in storage at Toulouse. Apparently)
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Old Feb 14, 19, 3:47 am
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And the A380 is officially dead with last deliveries in 2021.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47231504
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