Weighing all wheelie cases
Dec 19, 2018, 7:29 am
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Dec 19, 2018, 12:49 pm
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Except it doesn't state that! And if QF are relying on their policy stated on the website they would have a hard time showing the current wording implies maximums per dinension.
The wording is simply:
As it talks about 115cm bags, 105 cm bags and garment bags, the 'total dimensions' could be taken to mean each one of those items by themselves. not the actual LxHxD.
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The wording is simply:
- Total dimensions are measured by adding together the length, height and depth of the bag.
As it talks about 115cm bags, 105 cm bags and garment bags, the 'total dimensions' could be taken to mean each one of those items by themselves. not the actual LxHxD.
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Here is how Qantas.com listed the sizes 20 years ago: (https://web.archive.org/web/19981212...tas.com.au:80/) [Select 'Flying with us', "Domestic Economy Class" then click GO]
Originally Posted by Domestic Economy
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Carry on baggage is limited to 2 pieces as follows:
Briefcase or carry on bag not exceeding depth 23cm (8"), height 34cm (13"), Length 48cm (19") and/or suitpack or garment bag (Non-rigid frame, unfolded) not exceeding thickness 11cm (4"), width 60cm (24") and length 114cm (45") unfolded. ...
Carry on baggage is limited to 2 pieces as follows:
Briefcase or carry on bag not exceeding depth 23cm (8"), height 34cm (13"), Length 48cm (19") and/or suitpack or garment bag (Non-rigid frame, unfolded) not exceeding thickness 11cm (4"), width 60cm (24") and length 114cm (45") unfolded. ...
Other than that, if you bag does not comply with the dimensions of the sizer then it is oversized. End of Story.
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Dec 19, 2018, 9:03 pm
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Dec 20, 2018, 12:03 am
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Yes, the page is poorly constructed and has been abridged from what was published in the past, but they are indeed the maximums.
Here is how Qantas.com listed the sizes 20 years ago: (https://web.archive.org/web/19981212...tas.com.au:80/) [Select 'Flying with us', "Domestic Economy Class" then click GO]
If you have been able to carry your bag onboard in the past then that just good luck.
Other than that, if you bag does not comply with the dimensions of the sizer then it is oversized. End of Story.
Here is how Qantas.com listed the sizes 20 years ago: (https://web.archive.org/web/19981212...tas.com.au:80/) [Select 'Flying with us', "Domestic Economy Class" then click GO]
If you have been able to carry your bag onboard in the past then that just good luck.
Other than that, if you bag does not comply with the dimensions of the sizer then it is oversized. End of Story.
Volvo Mike's post below - QF issued bag is within total max dimensions but exceeds one of the individual ones. This seems to indicate individual dimensions are not totals.
Dec 20, 2018, 12:49 pm
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Qantas logo or no Qantas logo, @Volvo Mike's bag exceeds the maximum for carry on. It's fine for checked luggage.
Dec 21, 2018, 6:31 pm
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And here's the evidence that it is the total dimensions, not individual that make up the 115/105: https://www.qantasstore.com.au/p/qan...laboard/179131
For sale on the Qantas site, with names that are distinct and unique to Qantas operations (Mascot, Longreach, Winton, Charelville, etc).
The link above is to a 'wheelaboard' - that cannot be taken to mean anything but cabin. The dimensaions? 46x34x25 (the latter exceeding the 23cm you state applies). 105cm total (therefore compliant), but with different component dimensions to the ones stated on the website.
A company can't sell a product under its own branding/licence, in its own store, and then refuse carriage of that bag.
Dec 21, 2018, 6:55 pm
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Disagree.
And here's the evidence that it is the total dimensions, not individual that make up the 115/105: https://www.qantasstore.com.au/p/qan...laboard/179131
For sale on the Qantas site, with names that are distinct and unique to Qantas operations (Mascot, Longreach, Winton, Charelville, etc).
The link above is to a 'wheelaboard' - that cannot be taken to mean anything but cabin. The dimensaions? 46x34x25 (the latter exceeding the 23cm you state applies). 105cm total (therefore compliant), but with different component dimensions to the ones stated on the website.
A company can't sell a product under its own branding/licence, in its own store, and then refuse carriage of that bag.
And here's the evidence that it is the total dimensions, not individual that make up the 115/105: https://www.qantasstore.com.au/p/qan...laboard/179131
For sale on the Qantas site, with names that are distinct and unique to Qantas operations (Mascot, Longreach, Winton, Charelville, etc).
The link above is to a 'wheelaboard' - that cannot be taken to mean anything but cabin. The dimensaions? 46x34x25 (the latter exceeding the 23cm you state applies). 105cm total (therefore compliant), but with different component dimensions to the ones stated on the website.
A company can't sell a product under its own branding/licence, in its own store, and then refuse carriage of that bag.
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Carry On Notes:
In Australia all our airlines adhere to either a 105cm or 115cm (total size) domestic carry-on bag size limit.
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Carry On Notes:
In Australia all our airlines adhere to either a 105cm or 115cm (total size) domestic carry-on bag size limit.
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For that bag "External Size: 55cm x 35cm x 24/26cm (expanded) (includes wheels and handles)" so 55 + 35 + 24 =114cm
Dec 21, 2018, 9:23 pm
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A site selling cases does not make an authoritative source for Qantas's size limits
feel free to believe what you want, but if the agent says the bag isn't going on board, you will be down to choosing whether to check it in or leeave it
feel free to believe what you want, but if the agent says the bag isn't going on board, you will be down to choosing whether to check it in or leeave it
Dec 21, 2018, 11:19 pm
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But then, the wording on QF's website clearly addresses maximum total dimensions.
IF the HxLxW dimensions were supposed to be each individual maxima there would be absolutely no point in discussing the combined total, now would there?! Each would logically need to be defined with their attendant maximum (which they're not, not to mention the various examples portrayed which demonstrate compliance with total dimensions).
As to the 56x36x23 supposed maximum versus the QF retail bag at 46x34x25:
The 56cm height can't be a maximum because the example of a garment holder is provided.
Besides, if 56cm can fit, then 46cm can.
Similarly, if 36cm can fit , then 34cm can.
Similarly, if 36cm can fit, then 25cm can (rotate the bag).
IF QF is serious about this cabin baggage purge it should get its website information presented in a manner, which is completely unambiguous. No excuses.
Yet again, a bad job from the QF web team...seriously, folks it ain't hard for a person of average intelligence and literary competence to present the information in a clear, accurate, and unambiguous manner.
If the dimensions are indeed supposed to be maxima then QF has to also fix it's retail website (clearly and utterly branded as QF) and not promote non compliant merchandise as compliant - having just fallen foul of the ACCC over accurate portrayal of product and service you might think QF would attempt to clean up its act.
Claiming that the QF information is clear and unambiguous, which some are attempting, is a fool's errand.
And, as already observed in an earlier post, presenting a dimension cage after the fact (post sale) ain't gonna cut it in terms of complying with consumer law.
Jan 6, 2019, 3:24 am
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It is so inconsistent and becoming a joke!
Slows up boarding and then delays the planes.
People remove items to reach 7 kgs and then reinsert them while queuing on the airbridge.
It is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
The international/domestic transfer is flawed too.
Honestly this is a flawed initiative.
Slows up boarding and then delays the planes.
People remove items to reach 7 kgs and then reinsert them while queuing on the airbridge.
It is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
The international/domestic transfer is flawed too.
Honestly this is a flawed initiative.
Jan 6, 2019, 4:34 am
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It sounds like it is flawed in that it (a) isn't being done for every flight and providing a consistent enforcement and (b) that overweight bags are not being properky dealt with
consistent and proper enforcement and people would soon get the message and issues of time to handle would dissipate
consistent and proper enforcement and people would soon get the message and issues of time to handle would dissipate
