QF Business Lounges - A question

Old Nov 1, 18, 11:58 pm
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QF Business Lounges - A question

So it seems that all the Qantas Clubs have been re-branded as "QF Business Lounges". All fine and good. But how is it that as an Admirals Club member I have access to the lounges in MEL and SYD intl terminals, but not LAX? I don't get it. What am I missing? Is "Qantas Club" now only a QF domestic thing and the international terminal lounges are ....magically different.... after the name change?
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Old Nov 2, 18, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by JamesBigglesworth View Post
So it seems that all the Qantas Clubs have been re-branded as "QF Business Lounges". All fine and good. But how is it that as an Admirals Club member I have access to the lounges in MEL and SYD intl terminals, but not LAX? I don't get it. What am I missing? Is "Qantas Club" now only a QF domestic thing and the international terminal lounges are ....magically different.... after the name change?
The business lounge at TBIT is a OW lounge not a QF lounge. The F lounge at TBIT is a QF lounge.
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Old Nov 2, 18, 2:05 am
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The Qantas Clubs have not been re-branded as Business Lounges, and have not had a name change any time recently.
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Admirals Club members do not have access to all Qantas lounges. They have access to specific Qantas lounges that are "partner lounges".

Very few of the Qantas lounges outside of Australia are partner lounges. Only Auckland, Wellington and Singapore from what I can tell. The others, including LAX, cannot be accessed with Admirals Club membership.

Qantas lounges in international terminals have never been Qantas Clubs.
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Originally Posted by ButFli View Post
Qantas lounges in international terminals have never been Qantas Clubs.
Yes they have been but some years ago now.
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In addition, I am guessing, given that the (relatively) recent airside connection from T4 to TBIT, you have access to Admirals Club at LAX already, so AA are not going to pay for access to a different lounge at LAX.
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Old Nov 2, 18, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by ButFli View Post
Admirals Club members do not have access to all Qantas lounges. They have access to specific Qantas lounges that are "partner lounges".

Very few of the Qantas lounges outside of Australia are partner lounges. Only Auckland, Wellington and Singapore from what I can tell. The others, including LAX, cannot be accessed with Admirals Club membership.
Odd. I've used them in the past. The thing was that it's been ~2 years so I wasn't sure if something had changed or if I was just missing something. The *labels* on the lounges *have* changed to read Qantas Business Lounge in MEL and LAX. Being allowed into one but not the other was what confused me.


Qantas lounges in international terminals have never been Qantas Clubs.
OK, *that* I *know* is simply mistaken.
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Old Nov 2, 18, 5:46 pm
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The business lounge at TBIT is a OW lounge not a QF lounge. The F lounge at TBIT is a QF lounge.
Yet at the entrance it markets itself as Qantas Business Lounge, not a OW lounge or a Qantas Club lounge.

Rhetorical question time: Why do OW airlines seem to specialise in making it difficult to work out what you can and can't use?
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Why do OW airlines seem to specialise in making it difficult to work out what you can and can't use?
If you are trying to get access by virtue of an Admirals Club membership, then this really isn't anything to do with oneworld. It's the terms of your paid membership that matter.

If you were getting access by virtue of oneworld privileges, then none of this would matter one jot.
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Qantas have several Lounge Brandings:
  • First Lounge - LAX, MEL, SYD, AKL and, next year, SIN.
  • International Lounge - SIN, BNE, LHR, HKG and, soon, AKL.
  • International Business Lounge - AKL, NRT, HNL, MEL, SYD, WLG, LAX & PER (T1)
  • Domestic Business Lounge - SYD, MEL, CBR, BNE & PER
  • Qantas Clubs - Various Domestic locations
When the LAX business lounge opened, it was called "The Los Angeles oneworld Business lounge (operated by Qantas)". This has changed and is now simply a Qantas Business lounge.

I joined the Qantas Club in 1994 and while Qantas Club Members have had access to Qantas International Business lounges while flying QF, in those 24 years I have never seen reference to an international Business Lounge being specifically and officially labelled as a Qantas Club.
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Originally Posted by JamesBigglesworth View Post
Yet at the entrance it markets itself as Qantas Business Lounge, not a OW lounge or a Qantas Club lounge.
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I suspect access is not available to Admirals Club members due to AA not being willing to pay for such access.


Note the following (with its caveats): (https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...lub-access.jsp)

Where you can go
  • Domestic and international Admirals Club locations
  • All Alaska Airlines Lounges (when departing on flights marketed and operated by American, Alaska Airlines or Virgin America)
  • All Qantas Clubs (when departing on same-day flights operated by Qantas, or operated by American out of Auckland, New Zealand or Sydney, Australia)
  • Select partner lounges operated by third parties (on same-day flights operated by American)
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Originally Posted by serfty View Post
Qantas have several Lounge Brandings:
  • International Business Lounge - AKL, NRT, HNL, MEL, SYD, WLG, LAX & PER (T1)

I joined the Qantas Club in 1994 and while Qantas Club Members have had access to Qantas International Business lounges while flying QF, in those 24 years I have never seen reference to an international Business Lounge being specifically and officially labelled as a Qantas Club.
Interesting. See, now I would have sworn that the one in LAX used to be labelled as a Qantas Club. And apparently I would have been completely wrong. Par for the course there. The bit that is currently confusing me (other than all their different names (thanks for that list, btw, very helpful for framing it for me)) is why I was allowed in the MEL IBL but not the LAX one. Staff in LAX were.... quite rude.... about denying entry, but the staff in MEL, when I got there and asked for clarification, said it was fine and welcome etc., etc.

Ah well.
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