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MrLee Nov 1, 2018 7:44 am

Which is the best option for business class between the A330-200 and A380-800?
 
I'll be flying Qantas for the first time next month, going from Hong Kong to Sydney. There's two flights, one which is an A380-800 and another on an A330-200.

The 'flight information' says the A330 has an angled flat seat in business class, whereas the A380 says fully flat. I've had an angled flat bed with AirAsia before and it was very uncomfortable for me. However, when I look on the Qantas website I can't find any mention of an angled flat seat on the A330, only business suites with fully flat beds.

Is there one which is generally better than the other between the A380 and A330, please?

Many thanks

APUBleed Nov 1, 2018 2:54 pm

A380, unless you can get the 1-2-1 A330s.

mannej Nov 1, 2018 7:17 pm

QF has 2 A330-200's that have the old Skybed 1 product (i.e Angled lie flat), which I believe that one is currently in getting refurbished. The A380 is the nicer aircraft, but providing you get the Suite on the 330-200 the A330 has a better J product.

shillard Nov 2, 2018 7:15 am


Originally Posted by MrLee (Post 30380739)
I'll be flying Qantas for the first time next month, going from Hong Kong to Sydney. There's two flights,...


There ARE two flights.

Not THERE IS two flights.

What are they teaching in schools these days???


:)

Cedar Jet Nov 2, 2018 8:56 pm

A380 Pros: Atmospherics - i.e. lower cabin pressure, higher humidity and much quieter with an onboard 'lounge' to stretch your feet at.
Cons: Old school business class seat which sags at the feet due to age. Also, 2-2-2 layout.

A330 Pros: High possibility of new semi private J suite seats in 1-2-1 config.
Cons: low possibility of old like flat 2-2-2 config business seats, and worse atmospherics, louder.

All up I'd aim for the A330 with new business suites. It's too short a flight to worry about the above cons IMHO.

APUBleed Nov 3, 2018 8:14 am

Maybe I've misread something but the OP claims the A330 flight he is looking at is the Skybed Mk I. There is no question he should opt for the A380.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Nov 3, 2018 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by MrLee (Post 30380739)
I'll be flying Qantas for the first time next month, going from Hong Kong to Sydney. There's two flights, one which is an A380-800 and another on an A330-200.

The 'flight information' says the A330 has an angled flat seat in business class, whereas the A380 says fully flat. I've had an angled flat bed with AirAsia before and it was very uncomfortable for me. However, when I look on the Qantas website I can't find any mention of an angled flat seat on the A330, only business suites with fully flat beds.

Is there one which is generally better than the other between the A380 and A330, please?

Many thanks

The order of preference would be A330 suites->A380->A330 angled

There's no information on the angled seats because Qantas promised nearly six years ago that all A330s would be refurbished with the new suites by now :( I think there is some fine print at the bottom of one of their pages alluding to 'other business class products' or something like that. But unless you knew what they're talking about it's easy to miss.

The A380s suffer from drooping beds, not ideal. Have a look at the seat map for the A330 to confirm 2-2-2 (angled) or 1-2-1 (full flat). If unsure, you can use Qantas chat for them to confirm with you.

LTN Phobia Nov 3, 2018 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 30389660)
The order of preference would be A330 suites->A380->A330 angled

I am in full agreement with that.

I can't stand angled/droopy beds, whereas I think the A330 suites are very nice.

ozflygirl747 Nov 4, 2018 5:03 am


Originally Posted by MrLee (Post 30380739)
I'll be flying Qantas for the first time next month, going from Hong Kong to Sydney. There's two flights, one which is an A380-800 and another on an A330-200.

The 'flight information' says the A330 has an angled flat seat in business class, whereas the A380 says fully flat. I've had an angled flat bed with AirAsia before and it was very uncomfortable for me. However, when I look on the Qantas website I can't find any mention of an angled flat seat on the A330, only business suites with fully flat beds.

Is there one which is generally better than the other between the A380 and A330, please?

Many thanks

What date is the HKG/SYD flight?

Platy Nov 4, 2018 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by shillard (Post 30384627)
There ARE two flights.

Not THERE IS two flights.

What are they teaching in schools these days???


:)


for perspective...from another post of yours, Shillard:


"Good news: They've finally moved on from the Greek chicken dish. Some sort of lamb (by which they mean mutton...) curry instead.

Bad news: Just as crowded. Pro-tip, if coming from SIN use the early checkin lounge and get here well before 5pm when the inbound Euro crowds arrive.

Worse news: The KFC landslide in T1 has closed
."

Two sentences lack verbs.
No capital letter required after a colon.
No hyphen required between the words pro and tip.
Space required between the words check and in.
....etc

...surely there's enough to discuss herein without picking on folk's grammar and spelling?

...for some, English is a second language?

...why ridicule?

shillard Nov 4, 2018 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by Platy (Post 30392958)
for perspective...from another post of yours, Shillard:


"Good news: They've finally moved on from the Greek chicken dish. Some sort of lamb (by which they mean mutton...) curry instead.

Bad news: Just as crowded. Pro-tip, if coming from SIN use the early checkin lounge and get here well before 5pm when the inbound Euro crowds arrive.

Worse news: The KFC landslide in T1 has closed
."

Two sentences lack verbs.
No capital letter required after a colon.
No hyphen required between the words pro and tip.
Space required between the words check and in.
....etc

...surely there's enough to discuss herein without picking on folk's grammar and spelling?

...for some, English is a second language?

...why ridicule?

Do as I say, Platy - not as I do!

MrLee Nov 5, 2018 3:16 am


Originally Posted by shillard (Post 30384627)
There ARE two flights.

Not THERE IS two flights.

What are they teaching in schools these days???


:)

Thank you, and I'm sorry.

Platy Nov 5, 2018 3:17 am


Originally Posted by shillard (Post 30393081)
Do as I say, Platy - not as I do!

Actually, no.

I'm not attempting to link a simple grammatical error to an inference of the OP being ill educated: potentially a personal insult.

MrLee Nov 5, 2018 3:21 am


Originally Posted by mannej (Post 30383214)
QF has 2 A330-200's that have the old Skybed 1 product (i.e Angled lie flat), which I believe that one is currently in getting refurbished. The A380 is the nicer aircraft, but providing you get the Suite on the 330-200 the A330 has a better J product.

Thank you, I think the A380 will be the better option in this instance due to the flight information mentioning the angled bed.

MrLee Nov 5, 2018 3:24 am


Originally Posted by APUBleed (Post 30388264)
Maybe I've misread something but the OP claims the A330 flight he is looking at is the Skybed Mk I. There is no question he should opt for the A380.

Yes, it did say 'angled flat bed' in the flight information, so unless it's something generic which hasn't been updated, it certainly does seem like the A380 will be the better option.

MrLee Nov 5, 2018 3:26 am


Originally Posted by ozflygirl747 (Post 30391049)
What date is the HKG/SYD flight?

I was looking at 1 December.

lokijuh Nov 5, 2018 7:11 am


Originally Posted by MrLee (Post 30394475)
I was looking at 1 December.

The seat map for the A330 definitely shows 2-2-2 configuration, which has angled flat seat. A380 definitely the right choice.

whughes3 Nov 5, 2018 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by lokijuh (Post 30395015)
The seat map for the A330 definitely shows 2-2-2 configuration, which has angled flat seat. A380 definitely the right choice.

In my experience, this is often the case but is changed to 1-2-1 quite shortly before flight time. With only one 2-2-2 format a/c remaining in service, this would seem to be quite probable.

shillard Nov 5, 2018 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by MrLee (Post 30394451)
Thank you, and I'm sorry.

Well at least you took it in the good humour with which it was intended!

Platy Nov 6, 2018 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by shillard (Post 30398347)
Well at least you took it in the good humour with which it was intended!

Clearly the OP is not taking your "joke" in good humour if it triggered the perception that an apology was required!


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