A380 on LAX <=> JFK?

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Old Aug 19, 18, 10:32 pm
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A380 on LAX <=> JFK?

The A380 is showing as the operating plane for the LAX => JFK leg on September 28th. I thought it was usually a 747 on that route, with a 787 rumored to be taking over? Anyone else noticed or flown on the A380 on this route?
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Old Aug 20, 18, 1:23 am
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It would be a one-time flight as QF don't have the traffic to JFK to justify using A380. The gates used by QF at JFK are A380 capable so it is plausible to operate into JFK. In past years QF even switched to an A330 LAX-JFK at one point when couldn't operate 747 economically.
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Old Aug 21, 18, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by 18wheeler_vanrekt View Post
The A380 is showing as the operating plane for the LAX => JFK leg on September 28th. I thought it was usually a 747 on that route, with a 787 rumored to be taking over? Anyone else noticed or flown on the A380 on this route?
The 747 is the one from the QF15 BNE LAX flight which will change to a 787 (this is not a rumour but confirmed) from early September.

On the date you mentioned there is the 787 QF15 and a 747 QF55 operating BNE LAX. Probably for the 747 to go to the junk yard afterwards. Seems like the A380 from the Sydney run will be going to JFK that day.
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Old Aug 27, 18, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by littlegreenman View Post
The 747 is the one from the QF15 BNE LAX flight which will change to a 787 (this is not a rumour but confirmed) from early September.

On the date you mentioned there is the 787 QF15 and a 747 QF55 operating BNE LAX. Probably for the 747 to go to the junk yard afterwards. Seems like the A380 from the Sydney run will be going to JFK that day.
Once QF15/16 goes to 787, they are running extra 3 weekly 747 flights on BNE-LAX (QF55/56) until December when it becomes a 787 and 4 weekly.
ie, 787-9s 5 and 6 are starting daily BNE-LAX-JFK from this Saturday (Sep 1) with 3 weekly 747.
Once 787s 7 and 8 arrive in Nov, they are doing 4 weekly BNE-LAX and up to 8 weekly HKG flights.
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Do you guys have any info or gut feeling on the likelihood of the 747 remaining on the SYD-LAX QF11 leg in October, say the 21st or 22nd?
Or the SYD-SFO QF73 flight?
I'm trying to get on one before it's too late!
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Old Aug 31, 18, 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by Legend717 View Post
Do you guys have any info or gut feeling on the likelihood of the 747 remaining on the SYD-LAX QF11 leg in October, say the 21st or 22nd?
Or the SYD-SFO QF73 flight?
I'm trying to get on one before it's too late!
Qantas currently have 6 787-9s. 4 are used for LHR-PER-MEL-LAX/SFO. The other 2 are getting used (from tomorrow) for BNE-LAX-JFK. The next 2 arrive in November, and are being used for extra BNE-LAX and AU east coast-HKG.

There has been a single weekly 747 on QF11/12 SYD-LAX, but that is going back to daily A380 with DFW dropping back down to 6 weekly. With these changes, the only 747s going to the US will be the 3 weekly BNE-LAX (until Dec), SYD-SFO and an upgrade on HNL QF3/4 to 747 (and the seasonal SYD-YVR).

By the end of the year, the only QF US mainland route to have a 747 will be QF73/74 to SFO.
After 787s 7 and 8 arrive in November, the next 6 confirmed 787s won't arrive until late 2019. Without a change to the HKG 787 flying, SYD-SFO won't change off 747 before then.
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Qantas currently have 6 787-9s. 4 are used for LHR-PER-MEL-LAX/SFO. The other 2 are getting used (from tomorrow) for BNE-LAX-JFK. The next 2 arrive in November, and are being used for extra BNE-LAX and AU east coast-HKG.

There has been a single weekly 747 on QF11/12 SYD-LAX, but that is going back to daily A380 with DFW dropping back down to 6 weekly. With these changes, the only 747s going to the US will be the 3 weekly BNE-LAX (until Dec), SYD-SFO and an upgrade on HNL QF3/4 to 747 (and the seasonal SYD-YVR).

By the end of the year, the only QF US mainland route to have a 747 will be QF73/74 to SFO.
After 787s 7 and 8 arrive in November, the next 6 confirmed 787s won't arrive until late 2019. Without a change to the HKG 787 flying, SYD-SFO won't change off 747 before then.
Okay, trying to wade through that WEALTH of information at 3am (thanks for posting it!), it seems like:
--SYD-SFO QF73 in October is a sure bet... except that it doesn't fly on Tuesdays.
--QF11 on Oct 22 seems like, from your post, it would probably still be the scheduled 747 at that time, since no additional 789s will have arrived by then?
--My preference would be via LAX, since that flight does operate on Tuesdays, and wouldn't cut my vacation a day short.
---But I gotta get that Kangaroo'd 747 in my logbook, so if I need to travel a day earlier, SO BE IT!
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Okay, trying to wade through that WEALTH of information at 3am (thanks for posting it!), it seems like:
--SYD-SFO QF73 in October is a sure bet... except that it doesn't fly on Tuesdays.
--QF11 on Oct 22 seems like, from your post, it would probably still be the scheduled 747 at that time, since no additional 789s will have arrived by then?
--My preference would be via LAX, since that flight does operate on Tuesdays, and wouldn't cut my vacation a day short.
---But I gotta get that Kangaroo'd 747 in my logbook, so if I need to travel a day earlier, SO BE IT!
QF11/12 going back to daily A380 doesn't require a 787 to happen, just the DFW route dropping to 6 weekly or no planned A380 heavy maintenance.

Looking up the press releases and timetables, the upcoming changes to US flying are:
Sep 1 BNE-LAX-JFK going to daily 787 and 3 weekly 747
Sep 1 MEL-LAX 6 weekly 787 dropping to 2 weekly and new MEL-SFO 4 weekly 787 service starting
Dec 1 3 weekly BNE-LAX 747 going to 4 weekly 787 (11 weekly total)
Dec 4 SYD-LAX returning to daily A380
Dec 7 thru Apr SYD-HNL A330 becomes 747
Dec 17 SYD-SFO to daily 747
Feb 4 SYD-DFW dropping to 6 weekly

LAX becomes 747 free from Dec 1.
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Originally Posted by Himeno View Post
QF11/12 going back to daily A380 doesn't require a 787 to happen, just the DFW route dropping to 6 weekly or no planned A380 heavy maintenance.

Looking up the press releases and timetables, the upcoming changes to US flying are:
Sep 1 BNE-LAX-JFK going to daily 787 and 3 weekly 747
Sep 1 MEL-LAX 6 weekly 787 dropping to 2 weekly and new MEL-SFO 4 weekly 787 service starting
Dec 1 3 weekly BNE-LAX 747 going to 4 weekly 787 (11 weekly total)
Dec 4 SYD-LAX returning to daily A380
Dec 7 thru Apr SYD-HNL A330 becomes 747
Dec 17 SYD-SFO to daily 747
Feb 4 SYD-DFW dropping to 6 weekly

LAX becomes 747 free from Dec 1.
Roger that; thanks a lot!
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Old Aug 31, 18, 7:55 pm
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Last JFK-LAX 747

It looks like the last 747 JFK-LAX flight is currently in the air. This is a bit of sad moment both for Qantas flyers and for U.S. aviation as this is the last scheduled 747 passenger flight in the domestic United States (not that its bookable unless you're headed on to Australia, but still...)
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Originally Posted by number_6 View Post
It would be a one-time flight as QF don't have the traffic to JFK to justify using A380. The gates used by QF at JFK are A380 capable so it is plausible to operate into JFK. In past years QF even switched to an A330 LAX-JFK at one point when couldn't operate 747 economically.
That was back when they were flying AKL-LAX. The aircraft continued on to JFK.
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Old Aug 31, 18, 9:37 pm
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That was back when they were flying AKL-LAX. The aircraft continued on to JFK.
Yep, for a period about 7 years ago, they operated an A330 on SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD with a different flight number for each sector. (141/25/107/108/26/114 IIRC)
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Old Aug 31, 18, 10:22 pm
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Yep, for a period about 7 years ago, they operated an A330 on SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD with a different flight number for each sector. (141/25/107/108/26/114 IIRC)
Unless Iím mistaken, Iím fairly sure the jet came from MEL - QF25 was a one stop service from MEL to LAX via AKL.
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Old Aug 31, 18, 11:28 pm
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Unless Iím mistaken, Iím fairly sure the jet came from MEL - QF25 was a one stop service from MEL to LAX via AKL.
It started off that way. 747 MEL-AKL-LAX. Then they dropped the 747 from the MEL-AKL leg, using 737 trans tasmen and 747 trans pac (they would rotate the 747 between AU and NZ via LA). After a year or so of that, they changed to 737 MEL-AKL/A330 AKL-LAX on QF25/26.
After they pulled out of the AKL-LAX route, they returned 747 back to JFK.
They now use the former MEL-AKL-LAX flight numbers for SYD-HND and the former SYD-LAX-JFK numbers for SYD-PEK.
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QF26/QF26 had a varied history - 15 years ago it went BNE-AKL-LAX and vv.


Then late last decade this was changed MEL-AKL-LAX vv.



Later on it became -LAX-AKL-LAX- ...
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