Qantas goes direct Perth to London
Mar 25, 2018, 3:14 pm
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At 3.35Km, I doubt DRW will have any issues with a fully loaded A388 takiong off . (MEL 34 is 3.65Km)
Mar 25, 2018, 4:01 pm
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Review in on the Guardian. No surprises. Business Class good. Economy bad, well for the time he spent there he was cramped.
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...ngaroo-pyjamas
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...ngaroo-pyjamas
Mar 25, 2018, 5:00 pm
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I do not see how it does - there is the same number of choices. it is just a rerouting of QF9 via Perth rather than Dubai , not an additional choice
It is a reduction in choice for those booking 1st class
For those in Perth , it is a benefit, but don't see that there is really much difference going via Perh or via another airport.
It is a reduction in choice for those booking 1st class
For those in Perth , it is a benefit, but don't see that there is really much difference going via Perh or via another airport.
Even then you could argue there is a choice. You can go via SIN, continue to utilise the QF codeshares with EK, or take advantage of the numerous Oneworld carriers you can connect with.
Write a letter to your MP then, because having a general whinge for the sake of it is tiresome and pathetic.
Mar 25, 2018, 5:06 pm
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Unless you’re a regular full fare paying F pax, I can appreciate being annoyed when the route was announced however that was 15 months ago. That time has passed, move on and take your money elsewhere if it bothers you that’s much.
Even then you could argue there is a choice. You can go via SIN, continue to utilise the QF codeshares with EK, or take advantage of the numerous Oneworld carriers you can connect with.
You already can fly via Singapore, Thailand, China etc on other airlines ; the only difference now from Melbourne to London on QF is that the stop is in Perth rather than Dubai - that is not giving more choices - From Australia to UK there are still only 2 flights
Mar 25, 2018, 5:16 pm
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Mar 25, 2018, 6:12 pm
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Historic = one big publicity stunt.
Thank goodness for the various folk engaging in the various forums pointing out their opinions and the counterpoints to the QF mantra.
LHR/MEL/Europe FF is entirely correct: any taxpayers funds being thrown at an airline at a time when it's making a huge profit should rightly be open to scrutiny and question.
A reality check:
- QF9 / QF10 is a minnow in the UK-Australia market (a few percent of the 1.3 million annual pax)
- The distance flown is not remarkable
- QF has cut 50% of its capacity between MEL and LHR
- QF has cut 25% of its capacity between Australia and LHR
- QF has cut 50% of its first class capacity between Australia and LHR
- QF is not providing first class lounge facilities in SIN or LHR (or PER) for first pax and those with high tier status / CL
- The lack of first class on the PER-LHR route may (or may not) be a missed opportunity
- The market is increasingly being handed over to EK and EK will get the benefit of that whenever the QF-EK partnership dissolves (one suspects the return to SIN is partly a hedge anticipating such an event)
In the meantime, my personal concerns as a QF FF and sometimes customer are that my options for redemptions to LHR got sliced (due to the cut in capacity) and that QF at $10,000 return can't compete with SQ at $6,500 business class return BNE-LHR for my upcoming trip for meetings in London and that IMHO there is no excuse for excessive call wait times and staff cuts in call centres when the airline is supposedly making money.
In June / July I'll be comparing the SYD-SIN A380 QF first product with the SIN-MEL A380 SQ first product....both daytime flights.
QF PR = smoke and mirrors....
Mar 25, 2018, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Platy
[QF is not providing first class lounge facilities in SIN or LHR (or PER) for first pax and those with high tier status / CL
Mar 25, 2018, 7:19 pm
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And still nobody in this thread has answered the question about what the seat pitch, width and configuration (how many abreast?) is in Economy for this differently configured 787... which is what really counts, rather than marketing puff.
Mar 25, 2018, 7:20 pm
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Mar 25, 2018, 7:28 pm
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Perhaps someone who travels out of LHR on QF first can report on whether the options to use the BA and/ or CX first lounges are advised to first class passengers upon check in or whether folk are solely directed to the QF lounge (if at all).
(Interesting to consider that the various incoming media reports from those who travelled on the initial QF9 were made during exceptional circumstances...)
Mar 25, 2018, 7:49 pm
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You can see a picture in the Guardian article linked above that shows an average sized man looking to be wider than his seat.
Mar 25, 2018, 8:02 pm
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This seems to sum it up nicely...
It’s pretty cramped in this seat. I can’t type this story on the laptop as it’s too squashed while the person in front is reclining so I make notes on my mobile and watch the last episode of Fargo. Somehow I never saw it.
