747-444

There is more legroom, longer and wider seat, superior IFE, catering, alcohol etc. etc and I am including the J product on the A380. Anyone other than a midget can't fit in the BA long haul J product - being 6.4 and all.

lokijuh

The Australian market does want cheaper fares too, or at least some of it does. But the advantage Qantas has is that it controls the cheap fare end of the market too, at least in its home market. At the point in time when the Easyjet's and Ryanair's were really starting to expand, Qantas's only legacy competitor collapsed and Australia's emerging "Easyjet" (Virgin Blue) suddenly didn't have to compete so much on price. Add to this the smaller population and the absence of charter operators and serious competition from ground transport, that gave QF the chance to control the market and successfully segment the market by setting up Jetstar, in a way few legacy airlines have been able to (Lufthansa/Eurowings, Airlines/Scoot, Iberia/Vueling maybe the ones that have, with seemingly SQ and QF the most successful at preventing the deterioration in service levels of the parent). And of course Virgin Blue eventually morphed into a carrier much more like a full service or legacy carrier, and creating a nice duopoly by taking control of Australia's minor LCC, tiger.

LTN Phobia

6'4" would be quite OK for a lot of people and calling everyone who can fit in a 'midget' would be a rather strange view to take.

I guess I can't stand slopes or droops if I am intending to sleep, and even worse is being trapped in a window seat from which I cannot get out without walking up the seat neighbour.

Not that I am hugely keen on BA but between QF window seat on anything other than the refurbed A330 and BA CW window seat, I'd choose CW 100% of the time. QF seats have no privacy (except the refurbed A330) and unacceptable for working either. Unacceptable seat for me for sleeping or working means QF is not one of my preferred carriers for long haul J except for the refurbished A330.

Refurbed QF A330 (window seat) wins over BA CW any time though.

I don't normally watch the IFE. I guess it's all about personal preferences.

747-444

Have you flown BA long haul in J?
The seat is one of the smallest in the market, maybe even the worst in terms of pitch. I agree stepping over somebody and maybe waking them isn't ideal hence on BA one is in a real pickle with ALL of the window seats and ALL of the centre seats requiring customers to step over others. On the QF A380 the centre seats all of aisle access and the new J is top draw - what is BA proposing other than 'evolution not revolution'.

serfty

At 182cm and 59yo I have no problem leaving a window seat on skybed MkII and getting past the aisle PAX.

Note that all aisle access is available in Business on QF's 789 services (currently MEL/LAX), soon to be MEL-xPER-LHR vv.

og

LTN Phobia

Yes, many times, to the first question. Also many times on QF although I try to avoid their slopes when I can (not always possible).

I can get out of BA window seat without waking anyone up or risking tripping up on their feet.

I can't on QF (obviously can on the refurbished A330) once the seat is in the bed mode. I've tried many times and gave up.

Bearing in mind not everyone is over 180 cm tall (the percentage of females who are over 180 cm tall would not be very high).

IMO it is simply a matter of good fit to each traveller or not. QF isn't a good fit for me except for their refurbished A330.