today's QF62 / yesterday's QF61
May 15, 2017, 2:46 am
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today's QF62 / yesterday's QF61
I found some very unusual route QF61/62 taking looking at flightrader24.
Normally on this route, plane directs to each direction after departure but yesterday's flight from BNE to NRT and today's flight from NRT to BNE is taking very unusual route as follows.
Tokyo - Manila - Kota Kinabaru (Malaysia) - Indonesia - Darwin -Brisbane
By having such route, it takes almost 11 hours from Tokyo to Brisbane while it normally takes only 8hours and a half.
Do you know why this flight is taking such an inefficient route yesterday and today ? This huge detour makes delay and yesterda's QF61 arrived Narita just before 11pm and could not make the return back to Brisbane in the same day.
Regards,
Normally on this route, plane directs to each direction after departure but yesterday's flight from BNE to NRT and today's flight from NRT to BNE is taking very unusual route as follows.
Tokyo - Manila - Kota Kinabaru (Malaysia) - Indonesia - Darwin -Brisbane
By having such route, it takes almost 11 hours from Tokyo to Brisbane while it normally takes only 8hours and a half.
Do you know why this flight is taking such an inefficient route yesterday and today ? This huge detour makes delay and yesterda's QF61 arrived Narita just before 11pm and could not make the return back to Brisbane in the same day.
Regards,
May 15, 2017, 6:02 pm
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Very much doubt it.
As per the qfsource link some issue that whilst the aircraft was safe to fly, made it illegal to fly ETOPS180 so it had to hug closer to land than normal.
As long as its safe, better to delay pax for a few hours than a whole day or two while you wait for parts/ a fix
As per the qfsource link some issue that whilst the aircraft was safe to fly, made it illegal to fly ETOPS180 so it had to hug closer to land than normal.
As long as its safe, better to delay pax for a few hours than a whole day or two while you wait for parts/ a fix
May 16, 2017, 3:16 am
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May 16, 2017, 3:28 am
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May 16, 2017, 5:33 am
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May 16, 2017, 6:43 am
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May 16, 2017, 8:09 pm
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A fault that temporarily removes ETOPS from a plane can be very minor and a true corner case. I really wouldn't worry. Given that the plane is still allowed to fly it reality it is still entirely capable of ETOPS work. Just the paper work says no.
The real list to worry about is the minimum equipment list and if there is any doubt around that no pilot would even consider flying it.
The real list to worry about is the minimum equipment list and if there is any doubt around that no pilot would even consider flying it.
May 16, 2017, 10:01 pm
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Ironically it was the return flight (different vehicle) that had a rough (in the scale of things it was probably pretty mild, but it was rough to me
) turbulence the whole flight.
May 16, 2017, 11:15 pm
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Maybe yes, maybe no. For a start it's EDTO, not ETOPs, and something like a GPS U/S there can be significant implications for safety, such as the ability to use Saipan as an EDTO alternate when weather indicates the likelihood of a GNSS approach. QPC had such an issue last year flying 61, luckily extra fuel taken preflight enabled Guam to be used instead.
May 19, 2017, 9:04 am
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Actual flight
I heard from my friend who was taking this flight that there was no explanation from Qantas and many passengers were worrying as the flight was taking unusual route.
Passengers just guessed either problem of the aircraft or North Korea may attack Guam.
Bit surprised if no explanation on board was really made for extra flight time.
Regards,
Passengers just guessed either problem of the aircraft or North Korea may attack Guam.
Bit surprised if no explanation on board was really made for extra flight time.
Regards,