Reward flights found through AA - book through Qantas??
Need to get sister from Stuttgart to NYC on certain dates in April, looking to use points to book reward flights.
WP, but coming up with nothing on extensive (all cabins, nearby cities, flex dates etc.) Qantas searches. Found award flights on AA website, question is, can I somehow book these through Qantas with Qantas points? By calling maybe? Unfortunately all eggs in one basket with plenty of Qantas points but nothing else. Relying on some expert advice here as this has been a frustrating process to date! As an aside, I find it a bit annoying that Qantas gives no indication (as apparently others do) of how many reward seats are left - at some stages found a couple of possible flights, and hours later they were gone! |
If you have QF ff points you need to book with QF via web or phone
If you have AA ff miles you need to book with AA via web or phone AA are know to have phantom availability (that is rewards flights are not really available) AA also have saver and anytime rewards. For QF points you need saver. People are booking reward flights all the time. Eu USA can be hard to get |
Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28027750)
Need to get sister from Stuttgart to NYC on certain dates in April, looking to use points to book reward flights.
WP, but coming up with nothing on extensive (all cabins, nearby cities, flex dates etc.) Qantas searches. Found award flights on AA website, question is, can I somehow book these through Qantas with Qantas points? By calling maybe? Unfortunately all eggs in one basket with plenty of Qantas points but nothing else. Relying on some expert advice here as this has been a frustrating process to date! As an aside, I find it a bit annoying that Qantas gives no indication (as apparently others do) of how many reward seats are left - at some stages found a couple of possible flights, and hours later they were gone! JAL is supposed to be most reliable. BA comes up with phanton availability too at times. I have found Qantas is quite good at finding available seats, so am surprised your experience is otherwise |
Thanks Mwenenzi! I've found Saver flights so guess I'll give Qantas a buzz and soon find out whether these are an example of phantom availability or not!
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDon
(Post 28027839)
Try searching using BA or JAL engine
JAL is supposed to be most reliable. BA comes up with phanton availability too at times. I have found Qantas is quite good at finding available seats, so am surprised your experience is otherwise |
Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28027846)
Thanks Mwenenzi! I've found Saver flights so guess I'll give Qantas a buzz and soon find out whether these are an example of phantom availability or not!
I've done a lot of searching over the last week or so, the AA site's availability has been spot on (QF could see everything). However... results can vary depending on which page you start your search. If you search from the homepage results can often be limited. Going to the 'plan travel' tab at the top of the page, then the 'flights' tab. This opens up a lot more availability as it defaults to 'all airlines' rather than just AA. Connecting AA flights in the USA can be difficult for QF to see. In those cases you might need to feed them airport by airport. |
Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28027750)
... at some stages found a couple of possible flights, and hours later they were gone!
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Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28027750)
Need to get sister from Stuttgart to NYC on certain dates in April, looking to use points to book reward flights...
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Thanks all for help, ended up ringing Qantas and organising booking manually, in other words going through the award itinerary I could see on the AA website flight by flight and getting the agent to build it up as a booking.
Taxes were signif. more expensive than appeared on the AA website for the same flights, but it had got to the stage where I didn't even care anymore and just wanted to make the booking so didn't question it! Any idea why the tax difference for the same flights though? Flights are a mix of AA/BA/AB. I see now on other threads that others are also having issues with seeing AA award availability through QF! |
Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28050640)
Taxes were signif. more expensive than appeared on the AA website for the same flights, but it had got to the stage where I didn't even care anymore and just wanted to make the booking so didn't question it! Any idea why the tax difference for the same flights though?
A "carrier imposed surcharge", as QF & BA apply on awards, goes direct to the airline (=profit). A "carrier imposed surcharge" is not a tax. Those who mix taxes and surcharges and consider surcharges as taxes are being take as fools by the airline (they like it that way) . |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 28051853)
Real taxes on award flights are the same for all airlines for the same route and class. A surcharge can trigger additional real taxes if the flight changes from a non revenue flight to a revenue flight.
A "carrier imposed surcharge", as QF & BA apply on awards, goes direct to the airline (=profit). A "carrier imposed surcharge" is not a tax. Those who mix taxes and surcharges and consider surcharges as taxes are being take as fools by the airline (they like it that way) . |
Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28050640)
..Flights are a mix of AA/BA/AB.!
Originally Posted by deeruck
(Post 28056266)
Still, if grinna had generated the award routing on the AA website, it shouldn't have lead to a different "cash supplement" should it, apart from a possible QF telephone booking charge?
AA also have a $75? close in award fee if the award is made xx days before the flight. |
Originally Posted by deeruck
(Post 28056266)
Still, if grinna had generated the award routing on the AA website, it shouldn't have lead to a different "cash supplement" should it, apart from a possible QF telephone booking charge?
I queried Qantas about this (via Facebook message) and received this somewhat less than satisfactory reply: "Hello xxx, thanks for taking the time to get in touch with us. While we do understand your frustrations, the prices offered by American Airlines will be different as we operate as different airlines. Yes, we do charge booking fees but this was waived for you as a one-off. Sorry we can't make any comments on the fares you were quoted on by another airline. Zen" Still no clearer why this has happened! |
Originally Posted by grinna
(Post 28065118)
My thoughts exactly, deeruck. For the record, it was ~$150 AUD more "cash supplement" with Qantas than had appeared on AA for identical flights/dates/coding/cabins.
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