Qantas First Lounge Access in Sydney on Cathay
#1
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Qantas First Lounge Access in Sydney on Cathay
Hello,
Booked an award flight from Sydney to Hong Kong in business class, connecting to LAX in first class. Since Cathay doesn't offer first class to Hong Kong from Sydney, can I access the Qantas first class lounge on this mixed cabin itinerary?
Thank you for the help
Booked an award flight from Sydney to Hong Kong in business class, connecting to LAX in first class. Since Cathay doesn't offer first class to Hong Kong from Sydney, can I access the Qantas first class lounge on this mixed cabin itinerary?
Thank you for the help
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nj1015 is flying business class HKG-SYD, so business class lounge access at SYD, and then first class HKG-LAX, so first class lounge access at HKG.
#5
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before the business class flight from Sydney, there is business class lounge access
before the 1st class flight from Hong Kong, can use the 1st class lounges of Qantas and Cathay Pacific
There is no 1st class lounge access before the business class flight
#8
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Originally Posted by OW
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
#9
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No - See https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access#tier
SYD-HKG is longer than 5 hours , so therefore there is no entitlement to 1st class lounge access
SYD-HKG is longer than 5 hours , so therefore there is no entitlement to 1st class lounge access
My experience with CX connecting flights, the highest cabin class apples for all sector with connection less than 24 hours.
i.e. SYD-HKG-PVG-HKG-LAX , you only need the short HKG-PVG leg to be flying in F, you will have F lounge invitation printed automatically for all sectors. It is a CX thing, nothing to do with OW rules
#10
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OW rules is different to CX rules.
My experience with CX connecting flights, the highest cabin class apples for all sector with connection less than 24 hours.
i.e. SYD-HKG-PVG-HKG-LAX , you only need the short HKG-PVG leg to be flying in F, you will have F lounge invitation printed automatically for all sectors. It is a CX thing, nothing to do with OW rules
My experience with CX connecting flights, the highest cabin class apples for all sector with connection less than 24 hours.
i.e. SYD-HKG-PVG-HKG-LAX , you only need the short HKG-PVG leg to be flying in F, you will have F lounge invitation printed automatically for all sectors. It is a CX thing, nothing to do with OW rules
If someone has OW Emerald status , then access based on status would be available
#11
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Well here's a data point as someone with no status. Not sure if I got lucky or if this is CX policy.
The lounge attendants told me the lounge invitation slip is all that matters. (I lost my lounge invitation probably at security, so the J lounge staff wouldn't even let me into the J lounge despite a J boarding pass.)
Both F and J lounge staff also said access is solely based on the SYD departing flight regardless of connections or duration, with the exception of an incoming longhaul connecting to a domestic flight (who wouldn't have access to the Int'l terminal, so not sure how that would work).
I showed the J lounge staff the OW policy above, and after some hand-wringing she said the policy was confusing and called CX. The CX rep said given my longer connecting F flight, I can access the F lounge.
Interestingly after hanging up with CX, the QF attendant said I cannot access the J lounge once I enter the F lounge. (I think she was wrong again, but I didn't want to push it given how pissed she was for having to call.)
Conclusion: YMMV
The lounge attendants told me the lounge invitation slip is all that matters. (I lost my lounge invitation probably at security, so the J lounge staff wouldn't even let me into the J lounge despite a J boarding pass.)
Both F and J lounge staff also said access is solely based on the SYD departing flight regardless of connections or duration, with the exception of an incoming longhaul connecting to a domestic flight (who wouldn't have access to the Int'l terminal, so not sure how that would work).
I showed the J lounge staff the OW policy above, and after some hand-wringing she said the policy was confusing and called CX. The CX rep said given my longer connecting F flight, I can access the F lounge.
Interestingly after hanging up with CX, the QF attendant said I cannot access the J lounge once I enter the F lounge. (I think she was wrong again, but I didn't want to push it given how pissed she was for having to call.)
Conclusion: YMMV
#13
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Correct.
Even as QF Plat I was told this by the CX staff.
I assume without the slip that CX won't pay QF (and I believe that operating carrier always pays in oneworld)
Even as QF Plat I was told this by the CX staff.
I assume without the slip that CX won't pay QF (and I believe that operating carrier always pays in oneworld)
#14
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I often transit in SYD (QF to CX). They can't issue me a lounge invitation in WLG for some reason, but I'm always allowed into the QF First Lounge showing my CX Emerald card. The people at the front desk take down the Marco Polo number and flight details at the reception desk. (I have also had CX tickets issued in the lounge, or more likely brought to the lounge by CX).
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