Connecting to QF Domestic at SYD
Oct 14, 2018, 6:18 pm
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As SYD is your entry into Australia you have to clear immigration & customs with all your carry on & checked baggage
Unless a major disruption, 3:35 is OK, even on separate tickets.
But with separate tickets there is always a risk (all yours)
Midday is not that busy for SYD T1 arrivals, unlike early morning 06:00-08:30
Look here---> Airport info SYDNEY (SYD) - amenities, transfers, transport
Unless a major disruption, 3:35 is OK, even on separate tickets.
But with separate tickets there is always a risk (all yours)
Midday is not that busy for SYD T1 arrivals, unlike early morning 06:00-08:30
Look here---> Airport info SYDNEY (SYD) - amenities, transfers, transport
Oct 14, 2018, 7:35 pm
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Jetstar has very decently priced flexible fares
This may not protect against issues occurring between KUL and SYD , but will give as good a chance as possible.
Oct 15, 2018, 2:12 am
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Hi everyone,
sorry for resurrecting an old thread. I have a question similar to that of the OP, and thought that it isn't one that justifies a new thread altogether.
So, I'm flying into SYD in late December on MH123 arriving at 10:55, flying J, and intend to connect to QF441 to Melbourne (in Y) which departs at 14:30. This is on separate tickets. I will be checking in luggage, and based on the above cannot check it through all the way to Melbourne from my origin. Otherwise, I could book myself into QF499 which departs at 21:00 although that is not a desirable time.
Is 3 hours and 35 minutes in this scenario realistic? FWIW, I have OWE status, and my travel companions have OWS and OWR each.
Thanks in advance
clubeurope
sorry for resurrecting an old thread. I have a question similar to that of the OP, and thought that it isn't one that justifies a new thread altogether.
So, I'm flying into SYD in late December on MH123 arriving at 10:55, flying J, and intend to connect to QF441 to Melbourne (in Y) which departs at 14:30. This is on separate tickets. I will be checking in luggage, and based on the above cannot check it through all the way to Melbourne from my origin. Otherwise, I could book myself into QF499 which departs at 21:00 although that is not a desirable time.
Is 3 hours and 35 minutes in this scenario realistic? FWIW, I have OWE status, and my travel companions have OWS and OWR each.
Thanks in advance
clubeurope
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Oct 15, 2018, 2:17 am
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There is good news for you: Malaysia Airlines still allows passengers to check-through to a final destination with baggage even if the sectors are ticketed separately on separate bookings; as long as the travel begins with Malaysia Airlines. Ask at the check-in counter.
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Oct 15, 2018, 2:29 am
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There is good news for you: Malaysia Airlines still allows passengers to check-through to a final destination with baggage even if the sectors are ticketed separately on separate bookings; as long as the travel begins with Malaysia Airlines. Ask at the check-in counter.
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Oct 15, 2018, 4:37 pm
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I don't think that's right. Where is Customs at MEL for arrivals on a domestic flight? Oh wait, there isn't any. Customs and Immigration will be at SYD for this international flight arriving into the country. A country's Customs Dept. has precedence over what an airline "allows".
As others have alluded: 3:35 at that time of day should be ample to make the connection (even with the reduced running of the Transfer Buses from a 10min interval at peak to 20min off-peak); status should allow for a fairly quick bag-drop experience at SYD if there are any hold-ups there.
Regards,
BD
Oct 15, 2018, 5:43 pm
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I have read on a forum (I think on AFF), that although legally not protected, once through checked in Altea (which is used by MH and QF to process check in) it will appear in the system as a connection and thus is likely (not 100% certainty) that passenger will be rebooked if late inbound. So even though you physically have to collect and recheck bags it is worth trying to through check if possible.
Also QF transfer desk at SYD international tends to have more leeway than other checkin areas - I know (admittedlly some time ago) my partner once had late inbound on DL from LAX with separate award ticket to MEL on QF and was moved to later flight at transfer desk (I think perhaps having award ticket helped).
Also QF transfer desk at SYD international tends to have more leeway than other checkin areas - I know (admittedlly some time ago) my partner once had late inbound on DL from LAX with separate award ticket to MEL on QF and was moved to later flight at transfer desk (I think perhaps having award ticket helped).
Oct 15, 2018, 8:03 pm
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I have read on a forum (I think on AFF), that although legally not protected, once through checked in Altea (which is used by MH and QF to process check in) it will appear in the system as a connection and thus is likely (not 100% certainty) that passenger will be rebooked if late inbound. So even though you physically have to collect and recheck bags it is worth trying to through check if possible.
Oct 15, 2018, 8:58 pm
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Oct 19, 2018, 9:00 am
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Hi everyone,
sorry for resurrecting an old thread. I have a question similar to that of the OP, and thought that it isn't one that justifies a new thread altogether.
So, I'm flying into SYD in late December on MH123 arriving at 10:55, flying J, and intend to connect to QF441 to Melbourne (in Y) which departs at 14:30. This is on separate tickets. I will be checking in luggage, and based on the above cannot check it through all the way to Melbourne from my origin. Otherwise, I could book myself into QF499 which departs at 21:00 although that is not a desirable time.
Is 3 hours and 35 minutes in this scenario realistic? FWIW, I have OWE status, and my travel companions have OWS and OWR each.
Thanks in advance
clubeurope
sorry for resurrecting an old thread. I have a question similar to that of the OP, and thought that it isn't one that justifies a new thread altogether.
So, I'm flying into SYD in late December on MH123 arriving at 10:55, flying J, and intend to connect to QF441 to Melbourne (in Y) which departs at 14:30. This is on separate tickets. I will be checking in luggage, and based on the above cannot check it through all the way to Melbourne from my origin. Otherwise, I could book myself into QF499 which departs at 21:00 although that is not a desirable time.
Is 3 hours and 35 minutes in this scenario realistic? FWIW, I have OWE status, and my travel companions have OWS and OWR each.
Thanks in advance
clubeurope
Some flights, they pick on to check a lot of the pax, ie, xray the contents, or decide on a certain number of pax to pull aside and get the pax to open bags, or they can make a fuss when the pick up your incoming pax card off you.
A lot of variables.
If you don't pack any food, and have nothing to declare, go through the green nothing to declare channel, if they decide to get your bag opened, let them have a look see.
From KUL, they might decide to check for food or other things.
Best of luck anyway, usually, when I come back via SYD from NZ, I just have the incoming pax card and smartgate tix, and let them decide if they want to check my HLO or chat.
Some people seem to like to argue with officials.
What passports tho? Can you or your party use Smartgate?
Oct 25, 2018, 12:50 pm
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Also depends on if your flight is not picked for a deep inspection by ABF.
Some flights, they pick on to check a lot of the pax, ie, xray the contents, or decide on a certain number of pax to pull aside and get the pax to open bags, or they can make a fuss when the pick up your incoming pax card off you.
A lot of variables.
If you don't pack any food, and have nothing to declare, go through the green nothing to declare channel, if they decide to get your bag opened, let them have a look see.
From KUL, they might decide to check for food or other things.
Best of luck anyway, usually, when I come back via SYD from NZ, I just have the incoming pax card and smartgate tix, and let them decide if they want to check my HLO or chat.
Some people seem to like to argue with officials.
What passports tho? Can you or your party use Smartgate?
Some flights, they pick on to check a lot of the pax, ie, xray the contents, or decide on a certain number of pax to pull aside and get the pax to open bags, or they can make a fuss when the pick up your incoming pax card off you.
A lot of variables.
If you don't pack any food, and have nothing to declare, go through the green nothing to declare channel, if they decide to get your bag opened, let them have a look see.
From KUL, they might decide to check for food or other things.
Best of luck anyway, usually, when I come back via SYD from NZ, I just have the incoming pax card and smartgate tix, and let them decide if they want to check my HLO or chat.
Some people seem to like to argue with officials.
What passports tho? Can you or your party use Smartgate?
I think I'll just stay overnight in Sydney and take a flight the next morning
Oct 25, 2018, 6:05 pm
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If you have reason to stay the day/night in Sydney - fine - but personally I think that overkill as mitigation of a mis-connect on a 3:35 window that late in the morning.
How much would your accommodation be costing you? Why not buy a cheap fare on QF441 and also a flex on QF499 - if you make 441, you can cancel 499 for $99 ... got to be cheaper than a hotel in Sydney for the night??
Regards,
BD
Oct 27, 2018, 7:18 pm
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I would just book a QF ticket with a later connection, then ask to move earlier. QF domestic @ intl terminal have a lot of discretion and deal with this all of time. Moving to a late morning flight from a later afternoon should not be a capacity issue. I guess it is a matter of what is the worst out of pocket expense that your personal risk appetite will accept.
Nov 3, 2018, 6:39 am
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I would just book a QF ticket with a later connection, then ask to move earlier. QF domestic @ intl terminal have a lot of discretion and deal with this all of time. Moving to a late morning flight from a later afternoon should not be a capacity issue. I guess it is a matter of what is the worst out of pocket expense that your personal risk appetite will accept.
Hi clubeurope,
If you have reason to stay the day/night in Sydney - fine - but personally I think that overkill as mitigation of a mis-connect on a 3:35 window that late in the morning.
How much would your accommodation be costing you? Why not buy a cheap fare on QF441 and also a flex on QF499 - if you make 441, you can cancel 499 for $99 ... got to be cheaper than a hotel in Sydney for the night??
Regards,
BD
If you have reason to stay the day/night in Sydney - fine - but personally I think that overkill as mitigation of a mis-connect on a 3:35 window that late in the morning.
How much would your accommodation be costing you? Why not buy a cheap fare on QF441 and also a flex on QF499 - if you make 441, you can cancel 499 for $99 ... got to be cheaper than a hotel in Sydney for the night??
Regards,
BD
As to overnighting at SYD, some things caught on, and as it goes, one of my friends invited me to meet up at her native Parramatta the day of my arrival. In the end, I chose to book QF423 flying the next day.
Despite that, thanks again!
Safe Travels,
clubeurope