The Qantas London Lounge - Opening 2017 [Pre opening discussion]
#16
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Hopefully they are using the time to give it a decent refurb - taking a few walls out would help dramatically.
#17
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This was the first time we had flown QF to HNL so can't comment on what the old one was like,couldn't have been any worse than what HA are offering,surely.
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I have been thinking Qantas believe the current lounge situation at LHR is costing them much more than having their own branded lounge might.
I have seen reference to significant costs applied for each passenger that uses a partner airlines lounge ($170 each time) - Qantas would pay BA for each QF PAX in First/Business (on QF) and/or each PAX using QF status, and any any guests.
2 388's a day totalling 156 F/J seats as well as any SG/WP flying economy/PE and their guests. Of course, there's those QP members accessing the AC to pay for as well.
I have seen reference to significant costs applied for each passenger that uses a partner airlines lounge ($170 each time) - Qantas would pay BA for each QF PAX in First/Business (on QF) and/or each PAX using QF status, and any any guests.
2 388's a day totalling 156 F/J seats as well as any SG/WP flying economy/PE and their guests. Of course, there's those QP members accessing the AC to pay for as well.
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I have been thinking Qantas believe the current lounge situation at LHR is costing them much more than having their own branded lounge might.
I have seen reference to significant costs applied for each passenger that uses a partner airlines lounge ($170 each time) - Qantas would pay BA for each QF PAX in First/Business (on QF) and/or each PAX using QF status, and any any guests.
2 388's a day totalling 156 F/J seats as well as any SG/WP flying economy/PE and their guests. Of course, there's those QP members accessing the AC to pay for as well.
I have seen reference to significant costs applied for each passenger that uses a partner airlines lounge ($170 each time) - Qantas would pay BA for each QF PAX in First/Business (on QF) and/or each PAX using QF status, and any any guests.
2 388's a day totalling 156 F/J seats as well as any SG/WP flying economy/PE and their guests. Of course, there's those QP members accessing the AC to pay for as well.
Add on to that the OWE and OWS flying in PE or WHY, as well as Qantas Pub members.
So it does amount to considerable dollars.
BUT, counter that with the revenue that QF gets from BA passengers using the SYD lounge before BA15, and surely there would be an off-set, so that expenditure at one lounge counters income from another?
This should really come down to alliance issues, shouldn't they all be consolidating, and just having one "oneworld" lounge, to which all OW carriers send their passengers to, would cut down a lot on costs.....
Dave
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I have been and continue to postulate.
This postulation is that it is a local issue - doing this will change balances for the QF2/QF10 services ex LHR.
I wonder how much AA charges for the QP members using the A/C at T3?
This postulation is that it is a local issue - doing this will change balances for the QF2/QF10 services ex LHR.
I wonder how much AA charges for the QP members using the A/C at T3?
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I have been thinking Qantas believe the current lounge situation at LHR is costing them much more than having their own branded lounge might.
I have seen reference to significant costs applied for each passenger that uses a partner airlines lounge ($170 each time) - Qantas would pay BA for each QF PAX in First/Business (on QF) and/or each PAX using QF status, and any any guests.
2 388's a day totalling 156 F/J seats as well as any SG/WP flying economy/PE and their guests. Of course, there's those QP members accessing the AC to pay for as well.
I have seen reference to significant costs applied for each passenger that uses a partner airlines lounge ($170 each time) - Qantas would pay BA for each QF PAX in First/Business (on QF) and/or each PAX using QF status, and any any guests.
2 388's a day totalling 156 F/J seats as well as any SG/WP flying economy/PE and their guests. Of course, there's those QP members accessing the AC to pay for as well.
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Also,AA/BA/CX each have a separate First class section,so I doubt that many Emeralds/F pax will use the QF lounge instead of the other 3...particularly the CX,as they will have a really great F lounge. It is simmilar to what happens at HKG.
Rembember what happened in BKK? QF lounge was by far the best OW lounge there,but then CX opened a lounge,that was way better than QF/JL. 5 monts later QF decided to close the lounge,presumably because everyone migrated to the superior CX lounge and QF started paying large fees to CX,while still incurring their own lounge operating costs.
So I would say it's more to do with branding,then with costs.
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Are there really that many Qantas Club members? I've never seen it as good value.
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Even if there are many of them,they don't fly enough to get Sapphire (otherwise why would they pay for membership?),which means that there are not that many of them on a given flight. It's the same logic with the ill question whether CX GR creates long lines in priority boarding queue.
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I am sure Branding has something to do with it - but the MD is a numbers man ans I reckon his bean counters have deemed more cost effective.
Of course, bean counters have been wrong before ...
Of course, bean counters have been wrong before ...
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#29
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Even if there are many of them,they don't fly enough to get Sapphire (otherwise why would they pay for membership?),which means that there are not that many of them on a given flight. It's the same logic with the ill question whether CX GR creates long lines in priority boarding queue.
You have no idea how many paid QC members are out there and need to factor that many pay very little for membership if employees of corporate deal organisations ....
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Even if there are many of them,they don't fly enough to get Sapphire (otherwise why would they pay for membership?),which means that there are not that many of them on a given flight. It's the same logic with the ill question whether CX GR creates long lines in priority boarding queue.
Comes in very useful with my semi-regular trip to Europe.
Why do you think that this is not a normal usage pattern?
Dave