Wasted Points/Money in J with kids?
Mar 8, 2016, 10:09 am
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So what's the difference between a drink idiot making a ruckus, paying for an F fare, and a brat (carrying on the way that brats do) causing a ruckus, paying an F fare?
Both have paid the same fare, the only difference I can see is that the brat's action is instinctive, and the p1ss3d idiot's behaviour is brought on by the supply of alcohol in the lounge before the flight.
Go ahead and say that the brat should be banned, but from personal experience I think that it is the F passenger who is more of a problem to the rest of the cabin.
Dave
Both have paid the same fare, the only difference I can see is that the brat's action is instinctive, and the p1ss3d idiot's behaviour is brought on by the supply of alcohol in the lounge before the flight.
Go ahead and say that the brat should be banned, but from personal experience I think that it is the F passenger who is more of a problem to the rest of the cabin.
Dave
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Mar 8, 2016, 10:31 am
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Mar 8, 2016, 1:47 pm
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Mar 8, 2016, 4:41 pm
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When flying economy you are paying a basic fare where you can expect that there will be disturbances. In first class and business class you are paying a premium fare where one of the benefits is to have an environment where disturbances are minimised to allow for sleep, work or whatever else you are inclined to do. Airlines should for that amount of money have actions they can implement to deal with disturbances more than just shrugging their shoulders as if the expectation is that there is nothing they can do.
Mar 8, 2016, 5:48 pm
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I have seen many advertisements for premium class cabins spruiking their ability to get you to the destination relaxed and refreshed. Whether they are in the terms and conditions or not if they advertise something in Australia and dont deliver then they can be sued for false and misleading advertising.
Mar 8, 2016, 6:14 pm
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I have seen many advertisements for premium class cabins spruiking their ability to get you to the destination relaxed and refreshed. Whether they are in the terms and conditions or not if they advertise something in Australia and dont deliver then they can be sued for false and misleading advertising.
If not arriving "relaxed and refreshed" was grounds for misleading advertising complaint then I know plenty of people who fly in J/F who can't sleep on planes, find the lie flat beds uncomfortable and cramped, and arrive anything but relaxed and refreshed.
Mar 8, 2016, 7:43 pm
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Fortunately your belief is not relevant and while you may think it funny there are many actions in law that win. However if you advertise it and dont deliver you are liable. If other passengers were at fault and the airline does not have processes and procedures or fails to follow them they are still at fault as it is something that is easily predictable that sometimes there will be passengers causing disturbance. Much of law is based on precedent and the fact that you dont consider it actionable doesnt mean it isnt. Then again suing someone for excessive flatulance in the cabin could well generate some levity.
Mar 8, 2016, 7:59 pm
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You dont need to. Objectionable people must follow the instructions of the cabin crew/ captain therefore they have the power to correct the problem. We are talking about prolonged disturbance here where the flight experience is compromised by something that is within the crews control. There are many examples of crew exercising their control, people being thrown off flights for their dress/ behaviour, even having a suspicious name.
Mar 8, 2016, 8:42 pm
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Knock yaself out trying and let me know how you get on suing an airline based on the advert and the behaviour of passengers
There is a very limited set of things that the crew have the authority to direct a passenger to follow and these relate to safety
The crew , for example, cannot order a passenger to not recline during a meal service
There is a very limited set of things that the crew have the authority to direct a passenger to follow and these relate to safety
The crew , for example, cannot order a passenger to not recline during a meal service
Mar 8, 2016, 9:01 pm
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Knock yaself out trying and let me know how you get on suing an airline based on the advert and the behaviour of passengers
There is a very limited set of things that the crew have the authority to direct a passenger to follow and these relate to safety
The crew , for example, cannot order a passenger to not recline during a meal service
There is a very limited set of things that the crew have the authority to direct a passenger to follow and these relate to safety
The crew , for example, cannot order a passenger to not recline during a meal service
Mar 9, 2016, 5:59 am
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I've flown the better part of my life in premium cabins and rarely seen a disruptive adult, of those and even more rare is that they stay disruptive the entire flight as do many children under 10. I have however seen MANY disruptive children in comparison and would take a disruptive adult over a screaming crying baby anyway of the week.
Mar 10, 2016, 1:53 am
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Their money, their choice!
First and biz class still gets you all the benefits of check-in, lounge, space, no fighting for overhead lockers, food served when you want it.
Babies cry. But it's the attitude of the parents that matters. Are they sitting doing nothing? (very annoying)... or actively trying to resolve the problem? (the best we can expect)
Toddlers should not be allowed to run amok in a cabin. But supervised walks seem fair enough.
How did you deal with the situation on your flights? Did you approach the parents and ask them to resolve the problem?
First and biz class still gets you all the benefits of check-in, lounge, space, no fighting for overhead lockers, food served when you want it.
Babies cry. But it's the attitude of the parents that matters. Are they sitting doing nothing? (very annoying)... or actively trying to resolve the problem? (the best we can expect)
Toddlers should not be allowed to run amok in a cabin. But supervised walks seem fair enough.
How did you deal with the situation on your flights? Did you approach the parents and ask them to resolve the problem?
Fully agree with every point.